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RIFF040 - Faith No More - Angel Dust

10 March 2025 ·82 min ·Season 2025

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When Five Mates Turned Left and Made the Record Nobody Expected

Hosts: Neil & Chris
Duration: ~82 minutes
Release: 10 March 2025

Episode Description

Chris arrives still recovering from a week-long illness that wiped him out completely, Neil had hated Angel Dust for 30 years until preparing for this episode, and both hosts end up blown away by an album that nobody quite knows how to categorize. This is Faith No More at their most defiant, Mike Patton fully integrated into the songwriting process, Jim Martin barely involved and eventually departing, and a record label executive calling it career suicide while the band just got on with making stuff with their mates.

Released in June 1992 into a year absolutely packed with heavy music, Megadeth's Countdown to Extinction, Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power, Rage Against the Machine's debut, Alice in Chains' Dirt, Angel Dust sold 2.5 million copies worldwide by being absolutely nothing like any of them. The Real Thing had been riffy and metal driven with Jim Martin's guitar work dominating, this was Mike Patton's avant garde mishmash, post alt rock, synth heavy, bass driven, genre defying paint splatter on a canvas with Easy as the Commodores cover nobody saw coming.

What You'll Hear:

Neil's complete 180 degree turnaround from hating this album 30 years ago to falling completely in love during preparation, unable to relate to the person who dismissed it after one listen because it wasn't the metal he wanted from The Real Thing
Chris's memory of buying the actual CD in a shop representing serious purchase commitment, loving the album immediately because it felt like mates making stuff without genre confines, creativity unleashed without overthinking, Dan Baker's "just makes making stuff innit" philosophy epitomized
Jim Martin's dissatisfaction with the direction leading to minimal involvement, record was essentially done when he came in at the end to play guitar parts already written, wanted more metal while band veered into experimental territory creating first true Mike Patton Faith No More record
Record label Slash calling it career suicide, built metal fan base with The Real Thing expecting another metal album but band said how do you like this instead in bratty way, Roddy Bottom explaining Angel Dust as beautiful name for hideous drug fitting the band perfectly
San Francisco Bay Area scene influence, slash records underground label doing massive bands, eclectic music environment from Bob Marley to unheard of punk bands creating mishmash inevitability, Mabuhay Gardens regular venue gigs building community where fans became bands
Mike Patton's expanded role writing lyrics over longer period avoiding term paper approach of sitting down in bad mood creating entirely mad album, L Ron Hubbard personality test and fortune cookies inspiration, white trash neighborhood character sketches, sex songs where farther from sex the better

Featured Tracks & Analysis:

Midlife Crisis became the defining single underpinned by bass guitar work creating space for texture, Everything's Ruined as Neil's standout that he could put on repeat endlessly, Land of Sunshine kicking in with big thick heavy guitars despite album being less guitar driven overall, Easy cover recorded for something else becoming so popular it got added to UK represses in 1993 though original 1992 versions didn't have it. Album credited entirely to Patton for writing showing his dominance over direction, polished yet edgy production from Matt Wallace using Mesa Boogie amps when big metal used Marshalls, tracks could be reordered without losing coherence because songs unique and original not requiring album flow, no path at all completely aimless as Mike described it. Avant garde metal and alternative metal genre tags missing the mark, more post alt rock with synths and bass taking sonic space guitars occupied on The Real Thing, bizarro masterpiece per Rolling Stone ranking 65th in 100 greatest metal albums despite not really being metal, influenced Dillinger Escape Plan who cited Faith No More as teaching confidence to make extreme chaotic stuff without commercial concerns.

Tangential Gold:

Opening illness discussion, Chris's Friday afternoon headache sending him to bed waking up Monday morning having lost five kilograms, 111 operator's diagnostic question "is it coming out the top or the bottom love" determining he'd be fine, modern society's lost "oh you'll be fine" dismissiveness replaced by solemnity and drama
Independent music venue extinction crisis, Kennel Club poster showing Bob Marley/Short Dogs Grow/Eugene Chadbourne/Sea Hags Crime/Dead Milkman night after night, Music Venue Trust getting percentage of £200 Ticketmaster tickets funding grassroots venues where scenes form, Norwich's cafe bars with live music spaces as nucleus for local musicians hanging out forming bands
Wild Hearts' Satanic Rites sending Chris down back catalog binge through Thunder and Gun's Gallus and Swagger, Spirit Box and Architects new metalcore releases, complete new Wild Hearts lineup still sounding exactly like Ginger vomiting Wild Hearts
Next week Rage Against the Machine self titled album teased throughout episode, Sound City recording with Garth Richardson producing, political band no longer cool with Tom Morello posts getting ripped apart for being the machine, $400 tour tickets contradicting anti capitalist messaging creating fascinating tension
Riffology rebrand continuing success, both hosts still accidentally writing Monster Shop when Gemma asks where are you, feeling like somebody else's podcast slowly becoming theirs like writing 2024 in 2025, desperate pursuit of riffology.com domain requiring £100 GoDaddy back order

Why This Matters:

Angel Dust captures the exact moment a band chose artistic integrity over commercial safety, record label screaming career suicide while band made exactly what they wanted to make surrounded by 1992's unprecedented heavy music year. Lost Jim Martin but gained Mike Patton's full creative voice, influenced generation of experimental metal bands by proving genre boundaries exist to be ignored, taught Dillinger Escape Plan and countless others that mates making stuff in a room matters more than fitting commercial expectations. Album's 2.5 million sales proved accessible doesn't require conventional when songwriting serves vision, Easy becoming massive hit despite or because of being Commodores cover on experimental metal album nobody could categorize. San Francisco Bay Area eclectic scene made this mishmash inevitable, same environment producing punk and Bob Marley side by side created band comfortable splashing paint on canvas seeing where it lands, Matt Wallace's polished yet edgy production threading needle between accessible and challenging. Rolling Stone's bizarro masterpiece designation perfect, beautiful name for hideous drug Roddy Bottom explanation capturing duality, album you can reorder without losing coherence because each song stands alone as unique original statement refusing neat categorization.

Perfect for: Listeners who believe best albums come from bands making stuff with mates without overthinking genre confines, students of how artistic defiance builds lasting legacy over commercial compromise, fans of bass and synth driven post alt rock refusing metal categorization despite metal fan embrace, believers that 1992 represented peak year for heavy music experimentation, musicians learning confidence from Faith No More's example that it's okay to make what you want regardless of expectations, anyone who dismissed this 30 years ago and needs to give it another chance with open ears, supporters of independent music venue preservation recognizing scenes form in grassroots spaces not corporate amphitheaters, admirers of Mike Patton's evolution from Real Thing hired gun laying vocals over finished songs to Angel Dust full creative collaborator shaping direction, defenders of albums that divide fans because they refuse to repeat past successes.

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Speaker0:00 You have a really waste, I can't bet your future Your future, your future You are an angel, headed for a land of sunshine For sure you smile Riffology I wasn't ready Hello You are very poorly We had a week off because you were ill I was going to say I'm not ill very often We both are ill quite often Isn't that on Lindsay's bingo card? It is, Lindsay's bingo, yeah, we're not very well But what I will say is that there's a difference between being ill, ill And, you know, when you're like, oh, I don't feel very well I quite like that Do you know what I mean? It's basically an excuse to not do stuff Yes And I like that I didn't like this very much at all I was like, I felt, you know, when you feel a bit ill I felt like Thursday and Friday And I felt, oh, yeah, I'm not feeling brilliant And then I got to Friday afternoon And I finished like my last meeting and everything And I was kind of just writing up my notes and stuff And then I just got this headache From, you know, when you get like Like proper headaches It's like, you know, the world stops kind of thing And I was like, I can't I just got to, I got to go and like get into bed I feel awful And I got into bed and I closed my eyes And then I woke up and it was Monday morning Yeah, yeah And, you know, I'd like lost five kilograms And I felt awful, you know And then, and that's been this week really Just kind of recovering Just kind of filling myself with electrolytes And vitamins and paracetamol and stuff But I'm, I'm all right Do you know what it was? No No Cold Flu, I don't know, whatever They wouldn't, they're you thinking You know, like today Everything's got a name, hasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah You've got to have a I remember when I was a kid Everything was a cold Yeah, yeah Nobody had the flu No, no, it's just a cold There were stories of people that had the flu 10 years ago Yeah No one, you weren't allowed to actually have the flu Yeah But now everything's got a name But I don't know I just, just snot and headache and that Yeah, yeah I didn't, nothing came out of the bottom No Because I rang 111 Yeah And, you know, and they were like Oh, is it coming out of the top or the bottom, love? Yeah And I was like, it's not coming out of the bottom either Oh, you'll be fine Wow And I was So she was spot on Oh, you'll be fine You'll be fine Oh, you'll be fine I think we've lost a bit of that in modern society Yeah, yeah, there's always, oh God There's solemnity and drama Yeah About everything Yeah, what am I going to, am I going to die from a cold? Anyway, so I'm a bit of a horse And I'm a bit coffee Yeah But I'm all wrong with it But I have to be honest Mm And we always start with a confession lately We're covering Faith in the Moor's Angel Dust Yeah This week Yeah Because someone asked us to Yeah And I There was a poll Yeah, there was a poll Yeah But I, I hated this Yeah When it came out I didn't, I didn't like it very much Mm-hmm And I didn't know why Until we did, did kind of the, you know, the research for the show Because, you know, we do a little bit of reading in that for the show And it, when, like the real thing, which we covered Yeah It's quite riffy Yeah, yeah, yeah It's a lot of kind of, it's metally and riffy and a bit, do you know what I mean? It's quite, it's quite heavy in places And I really liked that Yeah And then, that's what I wanted Mm And this wasn't that, this, that, like, Angel Dust is more And there's still some really cool riffs and some really cool guitar work in it Yeah But it was, it was more, um, I think people keep describing it as avant-garde, don't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah But there was I think people use words like that when they can't pigeonhole it I don't know Yeah, yeah But it was like, it's got like jazz in it And it's got like, um, there are bits in there that sound like journey Yeah And there are bits in there that sound like, you know, um, like, I, I, I, you know Like you say, it's really difficult And it's kind of this, this kind of mishmash of genres and stuff And, and I didn't like that I was like, I didn't, I, I, I remember I listened to this once And then literally, and you know, in that kind of, you got compartmentalized bit of your brain And you're just like, I don't like that Yeah So I would never go back and listen to it Yeah Again, if it, if it appeared, if it, if, um, you know, the, the mighty, um, uh, streaming services decided it should show me this album I would have just skipped it and go, no, no, no, no, I could, because in like that bias is like, I don't like it Yeah Um, like preparing for the show, I thought, well, I could listen to it, I suppose Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'd just absolutely fallen in love with it Yeah, yeah, yeah, um, it is absolutely blown me away And, like, so much so that I kind of can't It's a little bit, um, a little bit, well, like, oh, a weird personal journey But I kind of almost can't relate to the person that listened to it Yeah And didn't Yeah, yeah, yeah Like, does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, totally And I'm like, I don't know What, I don't, I'm not sure what you were doing, Johnson Back then What, what, how, do you know what I mean? How, how can you not have Do you know when you, like, get a new album And, like, you think this is the best album ever Yeah, yeah, yeah And someone says, it's all right Yeah, yeah, yeah It's a bit like that for this, for me I, I'm like, I don't, I can't I mean, I can't think how long ago it would have been But, like, 30-odd years ago Um, but I'm like, well, how? Yeah You were so happy Things were time better than we had planned Capital from our woman and band We were like deep paper And almost on a calculator New arithmetic's a well I can't know if I'll be tired To be what was I'll be tired We had to multiply ourselves I'm bouncing to be A shining cup of candy And his fancy old school Would not listen to us But when he lost his appetite He lost his windbreak He became a valley So fast They came pure But he played But it shook me Soon our boy Became a million People had a lot of tears And they'll take them to the world And they'll take them to the world Everyone knew the thing that was this Of course they must do this What can anyone do? What can anyone do? No What can anyone do? No What can anyone do? No What can anyone do? No What can anyone do? No What can anyone do? Once he made us proud He made us rich And how old he to know These countless figures Now everything's rough Now everything's rough Now everything's rough Now everything's rough Yeah Now everything's rough Yeah Now everything's rough Yeah Now everything's rough Yeah Now everything's rough Yeah Now everything's rough Yeah Now everything's rough Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Now everything's rough Now everything's rough Now everything's rough will tell you that the impulse to change or the decisions that you make comes on just naturally. So for us it was that. It was a natural sort of just transition into what Angel Dust was. But saying that it's also probably pertinent to point out the couple of years before we recorded Angel Dust. Going into that process was pretty intense and changed us as a band. We've been working as a band for a long time. Touring, making records kind of relentlessly and we had had our first kind of taste of success and our first taste of like people liking us. And talking about us and appreciating us. And I don't know, we're kind of a fickle bunch of people. I know Billy and myself particularly were super sarcastic kids and kind of had a lot of attitude. So when we were suddenly accoladed with a lot of like praise and attention for something that we had done rather than just sort of take it and be happy with it. I think we took it further and said kind of like to our people that liked us and said, "Oh yeah? Well how do you like this?" In a kind of bratty way. So there was a way that we kind of stretched in making Angel Dust that was based on sort of like what had happened the past couple of years. Stylistically too. And all of us collectively learned kind of leaned into a more darker sound because that felt bold. And yeah, kind of not weak. Not weak, but it just felt like a strong stance to take to sort of double down. A strong stance to take to sort of double down. How could you not have appreciated it when it came out? Yeah. So I'm having a bit of a bit of a crisis. A midlife crisis. A midlife crisis. A midlife crisis. There we go. But how about you? Because you loved this, didn't you? Yeah. You see, this was an album that I know. The reasons that you didn't like it were the reasons that I loved it. Because it was a mishmash because it didn't really feel like an album. It didn't feel like a flowing like conceptual journey. It felt like a load of tracks just gone on a record. And because when I when I was exploring music at this time and I was just getting into writing music and getting in bands and all that, I was it was a really creatively sort of free period of my life where, you know, I'd write a song and it was a folk song and then I write something that sounded like metal and then I write something that sounded like, I don't know, whatever, you know, And then I have an electronic thing that I was doing. Yeah. And I didn't have the confines of genre when I was creating. So you would just, yeah. So I was really into just like making stuff. I didn't care what it was. And that's I think that's why this album resonated with me the most because it sounds like a load of guys making stuff and not getting too bogged down in the in the kind of like overthinking it. They were just making they were just Dan said this the other week. This is Dan Baker who we speak about every day and then and he said something. He comes out with these every now and then and they're really profound things that he says and I've used it probably in about 30 conversations since. Yeah, because we were talking about like being in a band and what it's about and he was like, he's like look when it comes down to it and I might be paraphrasing a bit, but he said just makes making stuff in it. And I was like it. Yes, it really is. And we get so lost. Yeah, in this other stuff, you know, and I don't know. It's a strange thing. And when you when you pull it back to it's just makes making stuff, that's why and that's why you've got easy on this. You've got Midnight Cowboy you've got, you know, like they were just mates making stuff, you know, and and and I think they just come I don't know like because of the real thing threaded together really well as a record and that definitely had a feel as an album. Yeah, it was a conceptual piece of work. This is like just throwing paint at a canvas and see where it lands. That's what it feels like to me. I I think this is. Yeah, I think it's really interesting because I'm sorry. Just say I had this on CD. I was that was the first deal then. Yeah, if it's like real CD. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no. There was a serious commitment of purchase in the shop. That's how much I like this album. Sorry. I think it's interesting with this one because Jim Martin who did the guitar work. Yeah, wasn't involved with this record pretty much. There's a few interviews of him and a few bits where he kind of says I didn't really get involved with Angel Dust at all. I didn't like the direction that the band was taking. I didn't like that that kind of random approach to it. And I wanted more metal. Yeah, and I think he was metal. I mean, he was it was big into metal. You could hear it through the real thing. I think that's kind of metal influence all the way through and that's what he loved. And then the band the whole band for Angel Dust to kind of veering off in this. Yeah, slightly different direction. And I think Jim's like, I know this is amazing. Yeah. And I think to your point, it's like the band, you know, all your mates are making music that you don't like anymore. Hmm, you know, so so he's kind of steadily just kind of going I don't I'm out. Yeah, but it's interesting that the there's a lovely quote from the record label for Angel Dust saying that it was career suicide that they built this fan base that were expecting a kind of a metal album. Yeah, but their fat their fan base were metal fans. And, and that they were going to put out this kind of like bizarre album, and it was just not going to go anywhere. And, and I love the fact that the band are just like, well, that's what we are. That's what we did. I mean, that's where we're going. Yeah, right. Yeah. And, and, and, you know, people loved it. I mean, it did. I mean, there must have been a lot of people like me at the time that were just like, Oh, actually, no, disillusioned by that's not, that's not for me. And the thing is, I mean, this came out in 92. Which, I mean, 92 was a ridiculous year for, for, for, for album. There was, there was no, and I kind of remember this coming out. I'm just kind of whatever. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And it was just like, I'm not, you know, because there was so much other stuff out there. We, yeah, we got a lot Alice in Change, Rage Against the Machine came out. Countdown to Destruction came out, Vulgar Display of Power came out. It was, it was massive. There was no, yeah, it was, it was so, so for me, like, Angel just was just, oh, well, yeah, you know, whatever, I'll go and listen to something else. Like, oh yeah, I picked up, you know, Rage Against the Machine or whatever. And so, um, I, I get, I totally get why the record company, well, because the record company would have seen all these, you know, massive metal albums that are coming through in 92. I do think that that kind of carved them out a bit of a niche because it built, built them a new set of fans, I think. Yes. Do you know what I mean? There's a bunch of people that perhaps, um, if they'd have produced another real thing. Yeah. And it got lost in the. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it wouldn't, I mean, I'm sure it wouldn't have been like, you know, like totally lost in the melee. But I do think that it kind of, um, carved them out a bit of a, um, a niche because, because they get, oh, this album particularly, uh, I remember listening to, uh, the Dillinger boys, the Dillinger escape plan. There's, I mean, we need to cover some of their albums actually, but they, um, there's a lovely bit in, uh, like really early on in there. I think they were doing, um, uh, as infinity or miss machine or something, but they, they were talking about their influences and, um, like, like talking about Mike Patton and faith no more as if they're like, like deities is kind of like this, you know, they, they, they kind of taught us that it's, it's okay to do this stuff. You know what I mean? Like you, you, you mates are in the room and you're, and you're making stuff. Um, you make what you want to make, right? You're not making something that's commercial. It's, and actually probably is going to be people out there, but there'll be people out there that will enjoy and like what you're doing. Yeah. And, and they were like, and if it wasn't for faith no more, we probably wouldn't have had that confidence to go into the studio and do, you know, which was like for Dillinger, pretty extreme. chaotic stuff. Um, so yeah, I, I don't know. I think, I think this, for me, this one is like super iconic and not just in and of itself. It was, you know, it was the band like, like not exerting their control, but it's the band doing their thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then the impact that had afterwards, cause some albums are just massive. And we did, we did a countdown to extinction from Megadeth. It was a great record, sold billions of copies, absolutely brilliant. didn't change the world. No. Yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't an album like, like you could go and cross the album out completely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think the, I don't think it would have had a massive impact on what happened later. Yeah. But there was some, I mean, there were some albums that do like, uh, P sells from Megadeth. Yeah. I think that did change the world. And I think that there are some albums that do that. Um, and I think this is one that, that just, just changed the world. Yeah. There's a, there's a, um, uh, like a before and after almost. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and it wasn't just the music. It was the way the band kind of defied, you know, the commercial agreed. Yeah. Way to go and make money from, from music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But even like, you know, something I've spoken about before we, we press record was, I found the interviews really hard to edit because that wasn't their thing. And, and, and, you know, you can sort of tell listening to them is that they don't really like doing interviews. Um, they don't really care. They've got no, no, no, no one's, no one's trained them on how to do PR stuff. You know, no, there's none of that. There's been no media training. They're just, they're just mates that have made music. There's someone suddenly gone, Oh, can you just, can you just do a, an interview with these guys? And they've gone, Oh God. The fans need somebody who can just sit and hand wave in front of a, you know what I mean? In front of a journalist. And I think you can see when that, that person, like, um, Led Zeppelin. Yeah. And that person's missing. Yes. That person's not there. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just chaos, isn't it? It's just that, because that's the front of the band. And it's like, yeah. And it also makes me think about, there was something we did ages and ages ago where we did, okay, computer. Yeah. And, um, and then there was like Tom was boss. Yeah. But actually thinking about it in this context, maybe Tom was just the one that was all right. Speaking in interviews and they left him to it. Yeah. I do think there's a certain thing to that. Like my, um, my youngest is, is starting to get really into music at the moment. And, um, it's, I just think it's, it's fascinating that, um, that type of personality that, that do that. They tend to be a little bit kind of, um, you just zone in on, on the thing. Do you know what I mean? You see, I like you uber focus on the music, like watching him learning, he's learning the piano at the minute and watching him zone in and do like for two hours, he'll just be sitting and he's got his headphones and he's just playing the same thing over and over and over. He's just trying to get it and trying to get it and trying to get it. Um, and I think if you think about like the, the, um, you know, the type of personalities that like talking to people and like engaging, they don't do that. No. And I think, so there's a natural, there's kind of almost this natural thing, isn't there? Where, you know, um, you've got the, the, the natural type of personality that go into music and like making music and not the same type of people that are naturally at home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, talking to the cameras and, and interviews and stuff. So that's really true actually. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's interesting. i was i saw a great interview with tool um this week and you may not get tons of abuse in the press typically um but you can just see the rest of the band are just like nope no no don't point that thing at me point at him point ask him and and it's um i was watching it and you sometimes you think like when you see um yeah when we saw the radio head stuff you just think oh god he's you know that they're petrified of him yeah but actually yeah yeah probably it's just yeah the others just don't don't ask me a question because i've made pieces yeah we did um i worked with one of our juniors a couple of weeks ago it's her first time um uh like presenting or well it's not true the first time being recorded yeah and there's a real difference when you're speaking when you're speaking yeah yeah yeah especially about something technical right like doing this is brilliant because it's like you know you oh you know someone's like oh you you said this happened in 1927 and it happened in 1928 i don't care but um but when you're at work and you're doing it and and you and you screw up it's like oh balls you know i mean you have to um and she was petrified she said like what if i make a mistake yeah what if i say the wrong thing what was it and and it was just this um you could just see this anxiety built of but it's about at least the fear of making a mistake it's the fear of saying something wrong and saying the wrong thing yeah and um it's like just as you were talking there it just it just kind of hit me that like imagine you were in the band you're in faith no more and you're in the you being interviewed and you say the thing that gets you cancelled or you do you know what i mean you say the thing that starts a row with another band or whatever um yeah i i that's a lot of pressure i can totally get how how yeah i just don't yeah you don't want that yeah i just want to go into you know like i want to go with my mates and i want to go and you know what i mean i want to go make some music please thank you so this one so the first one when we did when we did the real thing yeah i'm right in thinking that mike patten came in and the songs were already recorded and he just had to lay the vocals on yeah he wrote the lyrics whereas this time yeah this is very he had more of a sort of say in what was going on no i've been working on it a lot but it's kind of i've wanted to i make a bad i've made a conscious effort this time to spend a lot more time and spread it out over a longer period of time because last time i wrote the lyrics really quick and i mean it worked and everything but kind of all that i don't know i think the only way to really progress is to be ashamed of what you've just done and that's maybe a strong word but you got to do something completely different this album is going to be different lyrically musically everything and it's hard to sit down because when you sit down and write lyrics you want to do it like you're doing a term paper you want to get a pot of coffee and you want to get them over with you want to get it out of your system it's not fun and what happens when you do that is like you end up writing a lot of like usually you're in a bad mood just by chance you're in a bad mood right never happens you know it's just uh you know just a fluke you just you're in a bad mood you sit down and write and uh everything events ends up sounding mad which is great but then you got a pretty mad album on your hands and you need you need at least you know one or two other perspectives on the record you know that should definitely dominate but you gotta have some other things on there so you get all that madness out of your system all the all of the anger and and uh you're feeling pretty good and then you watch some tilting don't don't use any of this man what am i saying was there anyone but yeah you then you got to spread it out if you spread out what you're doing over a longer period of time you'll get a million different perspectives and uh it were it just makes for a more rounded well-rounded you know rated g album i took a lot from uh an l ron hubbard personality test and some from fortune cookies i went out and bought like a lot of fortune cookies and took some legs for that that's a real positive song um another one i'm kind of inspired by this new neighborhood i moved into just really white trash disgusting neighborhood where all these creeps walk around and i was kind of inspired by that so i just sat in my car and watched people fell asleep woke up wrote some words so there's one about that and there's one about um there's a couple like character sketches about imaginary people that's what the white trash one's about it's about this real slob guy kind of identify with him um uh there's a few about sex can't can't really avoid that one um yeah yeah for me right now sex is a little kind of like music you kind of got to get as far away from it as you can and the farther away that sex is from sex that's great the better it is for sex and uh i'm making some sense here huh pushing all over a sudden into a cross for keep the clever and the bull and shake him on onto your breath hide your face in the contents hide your face in the contents that our homes last so close and it rolls off the dark almost the road's responsible for family natural who suck swearing when concrete is swearing you'll never be Coach Buy your weekend, snatch yourself And we'll close on every game Waldo's Sweet Dog Cafe Make our friends, come home to my friends War confessing reasons But it's so easy for you There's always one thing Do you have something to tell me? Say something I don't want anything I want you I want you I want you I want you Relax It's just a phase You know I want you You know I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you I want you Mike Patton I want you You know I want you Patton just coming And at the end Yeah Doing his bit Yeah and literally So the way The way they described this And I don't know how How true this is But the way it's described Is literally kind of Jim Was just like Just not involved Not in the studio Not really part of it And then was brought in at the end With a you know Sit there Play this Really Yeah And then he did it And then went And then that was Obviously that was That was kind of it I've definitely been More involved in the Songwriting process This time around Because last time They kind of wrote All the songs And I just came in And wrote the words And it was kind of Sterile And this time Arrangement wise I was a little more involved And I wrote some things And Tried harder And definitely spent more time On writing words And Gee we just got so close On this album Everyone got so close We were just like A really little Like a little family I don't really know How to write a song In the sense that It has a form Like A, B, A, B One, two, three, four Kind of thing I just Kind of don't really Know how to do that To make things sound Catchy and in order And like in a In a little package That you can call a song So that's what it Sounds like It sounds like Kind of a collection Of There is sort of A form to it But it's nothing you can Really hum And it's Also does not It won't sound like Faith No More Really at all Which is I think A pretty good thing And I think a lot of people Are going to go What the hell is this But it's kind of I don't know It kind of sounds like Cinematic It kind of sounds Yeah More like Death metal movie music Or something But Since I'm not A very good communicator It's a lot easier For me to write Everything And put it on a tape And say This is the idea I had And then If that sparks Any other ideas In anyone else They can play it If not They can just copy it And it worked out Pretty well But Yeah it was fun Because I'm used to Working with people That kind of know That I can't write a song And they kind of Somehow miraculously Know what I'm thinking Because I can't write music And You know So I can I can say this thing Or hum this thing Or Give a visual description And someone will go Okay I know exactly What you mean And they can play it But with these guys You know I hadn't really written Anything with them before And It was It was interesting Because The intention wasn't there No one really knew What the intention was But it kind of Became apparent After We actually learned the thing I just recorded it At my house And gave everyone a tape And This is really funny Because when this album Comes out Or people The people might watch this And think Oh wow I'm going to Like it's a big deal Or something And it's just a rotten song But anyway Yeah We made like a little chart A list of parts Since it's nothing You can really remember And basically out of repetition Kind of like rote memorization They learned it And It's It'll really stick out Because this band Has really clever Like They're really The arrangements Are really You know where the song's going Usually I mean That's not bad But You know where the song's going And The The point of a lot of the songs Is to Along that path Kind of stray and come back And stray and come back And This one has no path At all It's completely Aimless Yeah It's an interesting comparison Of the two albums That Yeah The other one is very guitar driven Isn't it Whereas this one's very beat Beat and vocal driven It's much cleverer This one is I think There's a lot This one's And there's more There's actually It's interesting Yeah sorry The guitars On the real thing Took up a lot of space Sonically Yeah Whereas with this one There's a lot more synth There's a lot more bass Yeah okay I think There's some bits on here That I just think There are some bits on here That I Adore And I Like I don't think I ever heard When I first listened to this So Everything's Ruined For example I just love it I just It's a song That I could Put on repeat And And have it Running Like Over and over again It's just It's phenomenal That song Quite Quite Quite heavy With guitars On that one Land of Sunshine Kicks in with Like Big thick Heavy guitars Writing credit For everything On here Is Pattern Really Right Which is I do I think Is interesting Well your first reaction After you've been touring For a couple years Straight And Living with The same five people In pretty close quarters Is to get away And we did that For a while And We Pretty much The whole time off Consisted of just Making excuses And putting things off And kind of Patting each other On the back And Saying everything's Going to be great And then Not answering our phones For a while And a couple guys In the band Got kind of worried I took some pleasure In that But I kept really busy I did a bunch Of other things Kind of got that Out of my system And now It's kind of Time to go back To work again Yeah we definitely Avoided the issue Songs were being Written But certain people Like A guitar player Let me rephrase that Certain people Were really Hard to find And I think Were really Kind of Avoiding The issue And we had To resort To threats And childish Pranks And They worked And now Everyone wants To work And Everything's Great now But we Almost broke up It was so bad But yeah It's It's not like There's no guitars On this record No no no no But It's just It's not Led by it Yes I think That's the one Yeah And yeah But there are Some I think You're right There What happens Here Is there's Space For other Stuff And there's And they've Always done that I think Quite nicely Where you End up with Like the bass Guitar Do you know I mean There's Space for The texture In the bass Guitar To come Through And that Kind of Underpins The track And then Think Then the Track Builds From it And you Get that Here Midlife Crisis Is a good Example That we Kind of Just You know It's the Bass Guitar Work That Kind of Underpins That But yeah It's It's an Interesting Album Like you Say It's not It's not Every Track Just beginning With a Big slab Of guitar And big Riff And then You know Screamy Shouty Off you Go It's a It's a Phenomenal Record I think For the Uniqueness In each Track Just Yeah Like you Say you Could just You could Just like Mishmash It up a Little bit Yeah It could go In any Order Yeah You could You could Put this You know You know Like sometimes Where you Listen to an Album Sequence It's got To be It's got To be In that Order And this One You just And I Think They thought Heavily About it You know They made It this Order But For me From From the Perspective Of The songs And You know You could Put these Tracks in Any order And it Would still Make sense As a Record Yeah Because the Songs are Unique And original And they Don't Necessarily Need That Album Flow Yeah Yeah I think You're Probably Right I think Yeah Like you Say There's Some Songs That are Kind of In Inextricably Linked Together On Albums And The Album Flow It's like I was thinking Of the Albums Like an Album is Curated Yeah You know It's like It's like Having an Art gallery But where Do you Put the Song How does It fit You know Within the Grand scheme Of the Thing Where does It fit In the Story Of the Of the Piece Of art Of the Body Of work And With this One I don't Think it Matters Too much It's funny When you Said about Avant-garde Because I suppose This record Is a Little bit Modern Arty You know From That Not so Much Now But certainly At that Time In that Era Where The Zeitgeist Was You know Your Going Going Going Through The Last Record For Ten Months Just Ourselves Just Trying to Get People To Listen To A Record And All A Sudden You know The Claim Or The Success That Has Come What's The Difference It's The Same Record You know And That's We're The Same People We're People That's What We Are And Nobody None Of Us I Think If We Wanted To Be Become Greater We Just Become Jerks When People Wouldn't Be Listen To It Was Just Misery It Was We Just Got Over The Big Hair And Sunset Strip And Everything Being Big And Brash And Bold And Everyone Was Someone Made Fun Of About You I Think Politically There's A lot Of Political In Rest In The Early Nineties And We Were All Going To Die Of Climate Change So All Of That Was Happening And There Wasn't A lot Of Positive Stuff Happening In The World So Yeah I Think It Was Reflected That But This Was Like Someone Splatting Paint All Over The Wall Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah It Right Actually I guess Musically It Was Kind Of Pretty Grey You Know And Then These Guys Come Along And Just Wake It All Up Yeah I Do I Love The Concept Of The Album Name As Well Angel Dust And I Did I Found Like Three Or Four Different Explanations Of Where The Name I Think I Do Think That The Band When They Were Being Interviewed Just Made Stuff Up Oh There's What This One Here Will Play It And It's Talking About You Know What The Band Name Is And What The Album Name Is And Where It Came From When They Are And They Just Like Yeah Well It Doesn't Really Mean I Don't Talk About It I Found A Bit Where I Think It Was Roddy Bottom If I Ever Get Renamed I'm Being Renamed That That's It Is One Of The Best Names I Love One Is Roddy Bottom And The Other One Is Johnny Rod And I Love Those Two Names So There You Go That That's Podcasting Names Will Be Anyway There's A Lovely Bit From Him Where He It Was The End Of An Interview And It Was Typed In Like I Read The Interview I Didn't Hear It But He The Interview Asks Him The Name Angel Dust And What Inspired It And He Just Said It Kind Of Came From Nowhere Really But It It Was A Beautiful Name For Like A Hideous Drug Drug And We Like It Was A Beautiful Name For The Hideous Drug That Is Our Music And That's Where It Came From And I Like That's The Only Explanation That I Saw That I Liked So Therefore I Have I Have Taken That That I Think Is True But Yeah I Think That's That's Really Interesting And Then The Album Cover And The Artwork And Cows On The Back And It's A Swan On The Front I Don't Know I Suppose It Looks A Bit Like A Swan It's Just Weird Yeah And I Think That Kind Of Sums Up Do You Know I Mean The When We Did The Real Thing The Band Didn't Have Much To Do With The Album Cover Didn't Really Like It Weren't Really Bothered Same Is True Of This One Yeah They're Making Music With Their Mates That's What They're Doing The Album Cover Came From The Record Company Band Didn't Didn't Didn't Have Much To Do With It And So They're Just Like Yeah It's A Bird In It Then You Can Hear When You When You When The Interviews Happen Yeah It's A bit Weird It's Interesting It might Be worth Talking About Their Their Record Label Was Slash Yeah Who Did They Did All Kinds Of Other Other Bands But They Were Very Much A Kind Of A Kind Of Underground Label You Know They Weren't Doing Like Super Big Bands But A Lot Of These Underground Bands That They Did Became Massive Yeah Yeah Yeah So The Label Got Really Really Big And I Have A Real Soft Spot For That I Quite Like These You Know These Kind Of Move Out Now Excuse Yeah The Kind Of Movements That Kind Of Came They Were San Francisco I Actually Didn't Know That Yeah And They Were From The Bay And You Know In Like In The 70s And 80s Like The Punk Movement And But The Music Scene In San Francisco Was Bonkers And Absolutely Crazy So You Had Like Bob Marley Playing And Then You Have Some Not Unheard Of Punk Band Playing And It Was A Really Rich Music Scene And They That's Where They Grow Up That's Kind Of What They Were Exposed To As Kids Kind Of Thing And I Absolutely Think That Was Like A Core Part Of Why Faith No More Ended Up Faith No More Because They Yeah Those Scenes I Love Those Scenes That Kind Of Start You Know It's Kind Of From The Ground And You End But I Think That Scene That Whole Thing Would Have Been A Huge Part In How The Band Ended Up Do You Know I Mean That Mish Mash Of Stuff You Know It's Almost An Inevitability That We Were Going To Get Yes A Band That Was Yeah That's Really Interesting Yeah That Makes Huge Sense And It's That Thing About There's A few Of These Episodes That Become About The Geography Of Where They're From And Their Environment And All That Sort Of Stuff And It's Interesting Isn't Kind Of Driven Raw Sound Whereas If You Think Of The Seattle Sound It Was Much Rounder And Smoother And Not As Jagged Yeah That's True Yeah Because Even This You Know The Faith No More Sound Is Quite Angular Whereas The Grunge Sound Generally Is Quite Rounded Well I'm Proud Of Angel Dust Because It Was Maybe Not The Record That People Wanted Or Expected But It Was The Record That We Came Up With When We All Put Our Shoulders To The Grindstone And Pulled On The Rope And Did The Best We Could Challenged Ourselves Challenged Each Other And I'm Proud Of That Yeah For Sure Favorite Tunes I Don't Pick Favorites I Love How That Album Fits Together Beautifully When You Don't Do That Anymore But The Whole Thing Runs Together With The Sequence Beautifully From Start To Midnight Cowboy You Know I Love A lot Of Songs On There Caffeine Be Aggressive Midlife Crisis Everything's Ruined I Like Jizz Lover A Lot So Hard For Me To Play Favorites It's An Album I'm Very Satisfied With Very Pleased With It Wasn't Accidental We Did It On Purpose It Was Us Doing Our Best To Follow Up An Extremely Commercial Record With Something That Wasn't Necessarily Expected It Represents Us Believing In What We Did To The Extreme And I Feel Very Good About That I'm Pretty Proud Of That I'm Not One To Keep Favorites Of Albums So I Can Find Good Things About All Of Them And That Is Definitely Something I Feel Really Good About Because It Was A Battle Internally And Externally And I Feel Good About How It Turned Out So I Did A Thing Called The Complete History Of Faith No More And It Covers All Of That All That Kind Of Stuff The Kind Of The Early Years In Formation And And And I Found A Like A Poster For A Club Called The Kennel Club And It Had Like Bob Marley Short Dogs Grow Eugene Chadbourne The Sea Hags Crime Dead Milkman All Headlining Night After Night After Night You Know And I Just Find It Absolutely Fascinating That You Don't Tend To See That So Much These Days And I Think A Large Part Of This Is Back Then These What Would Have Been Independent Music Venues Certainly In The US And Here In The UK You Would Have Had These Independent Music Venues And There Would Have Been Like A Path Charted So You Got An Album Coming Out You Go Through It And It Didn't Matter What Genre You Were You Made Your Way Through The Various Of These Places And Steadily They've All Kind Of Gone Out Of Business You Know We've Just Seen This The Kind Of Rise Of The O2 And These Independent Music Venues Kind Of Can't Make Ends Meet Anymore It's Really Difficult And Certainly In Interesting Work They're Getting Money Aren't They From Big Artists So When You Buy Your $100 $200 ticket Here In The UK Like A Percentage Of That The Vast Majority That Goes To Ticket Master Some Of It Goes To These Independent Music Venues And I Just Think It's So Important It Really Is Important Because You Can't If You're You know If You're A band And You And We Talked About Scon Canancy Being Signed On Early Gigs And Stuff There's Nowhere For Those Bands To Play If You've Got If The Only Place You Can Play Is On A Support Leg Of You Know Some On The Oasis Tour Yeah Which These Days You've Got to Pay X Thousand Pounds To Jump On And I Just Think It's I Don't Know I I'm Not Saying There Aren't Any We're Really Lucky Here There Were Some Lovely Independent Music Venues Near Us But I Think In General Nottingham In Particular Yeah Nottingham Is Really Quite Cool But I Think You Know I Was In Norwich A Few Weeks Ago And It Really Hit Me How Many Of These Kind Of Like Bars Cafes That Have Got A Live Music Space You You Walking Past And You Can Just See It It Was A Sunday Morning I Was Kind Of Wandering Through And You Could Just See The Mics And Things And I Just Thought That's Really Really Cool We Fancy Go To Play There In Norwich That's A Cool Place It Is But I Think It's That Kind Of Thing Where It's You Know I Mean Having These Cool Spaces That I Just Support Nurture But That's Where The Scenes Come From Yeah Because If You If The Only Music Venue You've Got Is An O2 Academy I Mean I Mean Your Local Musicians Are Not Hanging Out There No I Promise You No No Exactly And That's What You Need You Need Somewhere For Your Impoverished Local Musicians Who Don't Like People Very Much Can Go And Hang Out And Form This Scene Where They Go And Make Music With The Mates Yeah Yeah It Is But Yeah Anyway I The Reason That I Got Onto That Thread Actually Was There Was A Couple Of Venues That Faith And Them All Played Massively There Was One Called The I'm Going To Pronounce It Poorly Probably But The Mabuhay Gardens And They Were Play There All The Time And It's Like You Know I Don't Know Like They Would Be There Every Few Weeks That Kind Of Regular Thing Where It's Kind Of They Would Like The Regular Band That But That's How These Scenes Get Started You Know I Mean These Little Venues And Then You'll Have Bands That Play There Regularly And Then Their Fans Will Come There And Then They'll Start A Band So They're Fans I Really Like That We Could Do That And Then They Start Bands And That's The Nucleus Of These That's Really Interesting It's So Simple But That's What Happens Isn't It Like You Go Play In Your Band People Like You And They're Like I Could Do That That Was Great And Then They're Hanging Out In The Same Places That You Are Yeah And So That's What I Think We Are Missing A Bit I Think That's Often Where These Things Come From Shall I Do Some Facts Let's Do Some Facts I've Got To Go Back I'm On The Blog So The Blog Is Riffology Co I Think It's Great It Is The Great You You Work Really Hard If President President Trump Reads The Blog And It's The Greatest Blog He Says Great People Great People Doing a Great Job Anyway Yeah It's There And You Can Listen To The Podcast While You Read Oh It's So Clever So Good That Kind Of Thing Impresses Me I'm Dead Impressed Anyway Released June The 8th 1992 Genre What Do You Think It Says In The Genre Tag Well You Said It Earlier Avant Garde It Says Alternative Metal Yeah And Avant Garde Metal Yeah I Don't Think It Was Metal At All No I Think It Was Kind Of Like It's Alt Rock Yeah It Is It's Kind Of Big Synth Alt Rock Post Alt Rock That's Where I was Going It's Got Synths In It Post Alt Rock Maybe A Hard Rock Band Because Those Are The People That Really embrace Part And That's Really Good I Mean We Kind Of Could Have Gone Anyway In The Beginning We Could Have Gone In A Bunch Of Different Directions I Think The Hard Rock Section Really Picked Up On Us Right Away But That's Not All We Are We Different Things And We Want To Be Those Other Things That We Are Anyway And Sometimes When You Want To Do Something Different Instead Of Seeing It As Taking Yourself And Exploring Things You're Seen As Alienating A Certain Thing That Supported You It Gets Into Politics And Has Nothing To Do With Music At All Really And It Hard Rock Is Okay It's Like Saying Salt Is Okay But Don't Want To Have Salt As Your Only Spice In Your Food All The Time Nothing Else Hard Rock Is Great But So Is A Lot Of Other Stuff Runtime 58 Minutes 47 Seconds Big Album I Think That's The Version With Easy On It Which We're Going To Go Out With Which Is Lovely Isn't It I Didn't Know It Didn't Ship With Easy If You Bought It Here In The UK I Might Get This The Wrong Way Around If You It Was Released In 92 Yeah If You Bought It In 92 I Don't Think It Had Easy On It But I Think It Came I Think They Did Easy At The End Of That Year People Are Going To Scream At I I Think They In The US I Don't Think It Had Easy On At All The Version That I Had Did But But I Didn't Buy It When It Came Out I Think The Version The Original Version In 92 Did Not And I Think The Versions In 93 Did And That Was The Record Label Going Oh That Mega We'll Stick That On The Album I Think It Was A Good Move To Be Fair The Man In A Suit Stick On They'll Buy More Of That Sold 2.5 Million Copies Worldwide Which Is A Lot 2.5 Million Of Anything Is A Lot Unless It Streams And You Want Some Money Yeah That's About 25p Isn't It Yeah And It's Yeah It's I Think It's A Lot Of Copies There Are Albums That The Sales Numbers Always Shock Me Like The Slipknot Album Sales Always Shocked Me A Little Bit Because I Kind Of Think You Know Your Mainstream Friends Because That's How you Imagine Buy Things Yeah And Then You Think None Of You Lot Would Have Bought That When We Did Alanis Morissette Everybody Bought That When You Could Imagine Your Mainstream Friends Buying That Yeah When We Did AC DC Back Melodic Hooks In There You Can Imagine My Mainstream Friends Going Yeah You Know I'm A bit Rock And Roll And Then They've Got That This I'm Interesting The Real Thing I Could Imagine Them Buying Yeah This One No I Can't It'd Be Too Weird But They Did Okay So They Totally Did Yeah And Yeah It's Interesting I Wonder How Many People Bought It And Didn't Like It Yes But It Became Massive Or Bought It Because Of Easy Yeah And Maybe What's This Other Stuff Yeah Yeah Maybe Maybe I Think It's A Grower Of An Album Totally agree I Wish I Had Spent More Time With It As A Kid Right What Else Did I Want To Do Oh Yeah So 1990s The World Changing Obviously Grunge And Alternative Rock But We Lost Kurt Cobain So The World Is Changing Pretty Dramatically Grunge Didn't Last Very Long No We Had With This Kind Of I Mean We Had Nirvana Yeah And Then We Moved Into This Kind Of Alt Rock You Know Kind Of Phase Where You Kind Of Alice And Chains And Stuff Kind Of Came Through In The Band At This Point We Had Mike Patton Vocals Jim Martin Guitar Didn't Plan It Very Much And Then Billy Gould On Bass Roddy Bottom Who Got The Best Name In The Band On Keyboards And Then Mike Borden Drums Roddy Bottom And Mike Borden Formed The Band That Came From Oh This Is What I Want To Talk About The Album's Title Angel Does We've Talked About That Reflecting The Duality Of Beauty And Horror And Being A Nice Name For Something That's Not Very Nice And The Cover Art He's Not A Swan It's An Egret It's A Great Egret And It's Got A Cow On The Back Hanging In A Locker So Remember That It's A Great Egret I Knew That I'd Written That I Knew That It Was Put Out By Slash And Reprise Records That's Interesting Reprise Did Green Day Yeah Reprise Are Good I Think You Get A Few Record Labels That Are Good Relapse Are Good At The Sharp Tone I Like Relapse And Sharp Tone At The Moment If I See Anything From Those Two It's Good Stuff I'm On It Like A Cop On It And Relapse Do Those Lovely Splatter Vinyls Yeah They may Be Reissuing Slightly Too Many Of Those Oh That's Another Exciting Thing Completely Off Topic What I'm Doing Fact But The Death Album Symbolic 30th Anniversary That's Done By Roadrunner Who Never Repress Anything I was Going to Say A Rude Word About Them But They're Not Very Nice People They Need To Repress Their Records Better And They're Doing A 30th Rebirth So If You Like Death And You Like Symbolic That's The One Do A Search And Find That That's Too Good Produced By Matt Wallace Who We Have Spoken About Before We Dug Deep Into Matt Wallace On The Previous Faith No More Episode That We Did Matt Describes The Sound Of This Album As Polished Yet Edgy I Think That's Fair Enough It's Quite Descriptive I Quite Like That I Think It's Probably Quite A Good Thing It Was Done With Messer Boogie Amps Yes Like All The Big Metal People Were Big At The Time Yeah Marshals Do you Know the Story of That No Great Story We'll Do A Blog About It I Like That Idea Cliffhanger Yeah The Recording Was Complicated Jim Martin's Dissatisfaction With The Album's Direction Led To His Eventual Departure From The Band Tension They Claimed Fuelled Creativity But Jim Martin Was Not A Big Part Of This Album And He Did Not Like It Which I Thought Was Really Interesting Where Did We Get To Here With Albums Yeah So This Was The Biggest Selling Album The Real Thing Was 1.2 Million Yeah This Was 2.5 Million King For A Day Fall For A Lifetime It's Credited As 151 Thousand Copies Officially Which Is Tiny Album Of The Year Was 2 Million Copies Which Again Is Really Interesting Other Stuff In 92 You Had Dirt By Allison It's What I Was Saying I Think One Listen Through This And Then You Had Rage Against The Machine As Well And Then You Had Megadeth And Pantera It Was A Rich Time For Big Thick Metal Stuff So It Got Nominated For A Grammy So It Did Get Nominated For A Grammy Singles Midlife Crisis Which Is That's The One That I Kind Of Think Of For This Album Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah And Then A Small Victory And Everything's Ruined Although I Don't Think Everything's Ruined Charted Anywhere I don't Remember Everything's Ruined In Charts At All Touring During The Tour They You know They went Out With Metallica And Nirvana Yes I do Yeah I remember That Yeah Which I Just Think Is I don't Know It's Crazy Isn't It Yeah It's Not Bad Is It They Were Out On The Lollapalooza Yeah Yeah Which Was Which Was Crazy All All Over The World That Was Absolutely Crazy Yeah What Where Else Did I Get To Oh Yeah Critical Acclaim We Always Talk About Critical Acclaim Rolling Stone Ranked It 65th Out Of 100 In Their 100 Greatest Metal Albums Of All Time And I Think It's Interesting It Gets Lumped In With Metal Records There Are Lots Of Albums Like This I Think That Kind Of Just Get Lumped Into That You Can Say They're Hard To Genre You've Got To Stick It Somewhere And I'm Not Entirely Sure It Does Sit With Metal But It Did Like It There Were Some Lovely Critical Reviews And Some Comments From It So The Rolling Stone Called It A Bizarro Masterpiece That's Really Good I Like Rolling Stone Which Was My Favorite I Like I Like There Are Lots Of Other Things In There They Yeah And That's Really It For Facts They Did They Kind Of Got Back Together They Did Obviously Jim Martin Left And The Band Just Just Stopped Basically At That Point And Then They Kind Of Got Back Together Again I Think In Was It 2009 I Think Personally I Was Going Through A Lot Of Stuff At That Time I Was Yeah Doing Bad Drugs At The Time Sort Of Getting In That And It Was A Struggle I Think Like Talking About Being Gay And The Public Though At The Time Felt Just Kind Of Like One Of Those Bratty Things That Like Didn't Matter To Me It Shouldn't Matter To Anyone It Was Sort Of It Was A Difficult Sort Of Tiptoeing Through Process For Me That I Acknowledge Now As Something That Was Kind Of Forming Who I Was And Kind Of Forming The Time That I Was In It Was Difficult And I Think I Don't Know If It Was Connected To Drug Use But It Was It Was A Difficult Time And The Difficulties Definitely For Me Pushed My Artistry In A Certain Direction With The Record As Far As A Hiatus Going I Don't Really Even Consider What Happened After Angel The Cycle Of That As A Hiatus Losing Jim Was Definitely A Big Step And It Took A Lot To Get From Point A Being Bye Bye Jim To Point B Being Like You Know What We Were Going To Do Next We Kind Of Were Always A Band Before Jim Joined The Band We Were Always A Band That Were Sort Of Looking For A Guitar Player Billy And Mike And I Had Such A Strong Sort Of Foundation We Were Very Precious About Bringing In Another Person Mike P Came And He Just Fit Naturally And Sort Of Did What He Did But Guitar Wise We Always Had A Hard Time So When Jim Left It Was Kind Of Back To Square One And That We Couldn't Find Someone For A Long Time That Would Fit The Bill And We Were Pretty Precious About That Decision So I Guess That Was Part Of The Reason For The Hiatus Going On And I Mean You'll Appreciate This So They Got Together Got Back Together And Then Did A Headline Show Download And Then In 2015 They Did So Invictus The Thing About So Invictus That I Think Is Interesting Is It Was Completely Self Funded You Know There Is Kind A Big Resurgence In This Kind Of Music This Kind Of Yeah I Suppose That Kind Of 80s And 90s Yeah Kind Of Rock Music That We Like So Much It Wasn't In 2015 No There Was A Big Lull In That And It Wasn't There So They Completely Funded It Themselves And Released It They're Crazy What's Wrong With These People Absolutely Crazy Looking Back On It Now It's Kind Of Oh Well Of Course Yeah Yeah Yeah Anyway That's All the Fact And That's All the Information It's All On Our Blog If You Like That Kind Of Thing Riffology Dot Co Yeah It's A Great Blog I Would Really Like The Riffology Dot Com I'm Gonna Get It I Want Riffology Dot Com Want It I Want It I Don't Know But I've Got To I Emailed Go Daddy And They Said They Want A Hundred Pounds Just To Just To Apparently You Have To Back Order These Things You Can't Just Can't Just Have Them Give It To Me Anyway That's It That's It That's Done What Have You Been Listening To This Week Have You I've Not Done Anything I've Been Real I've Had This On A Couple Of Times But I've Not Done I've Been Rubbish I'm Gonna I'm Gonna Get On That Wild Hearts One You Send Me That New Wild Hearts Yeah So There's Been The Satanic Rites Of The Wild Hearts By The Wild Hearts That Sent Me Off On A Wild Harts Back Catalogue Binge This Week It's Really Good It's Gone Back To Earth Versus It's Brilliant It's Yeah What Was The One That I Really Liked They Did Not The Last Album Before Oh Renaissance Man Yeah That Yeah But Still Wild Hearts You Just Kind Of See Where The Wild Hearts Come From It Just Vomited Out Of Ginger But Yeah Incredible Record I Think The Other Big Records I Think That Have That Have Come Out That I Think Are Interesting So Spirit Box Got A new Album Architects Got A new Album There's A lot Of Metal Core Stuff Out At The Moment Which I Think Is Really Interesting But It's The Wild Arts One That's Really Captured My Imagination And That Sent Me Off Down A Like A Back Catalogue Binge Of Stuff That I Loved At That Time So Like Thunder And Gun Gallus And Swagger I've Been Listening To A lot Of That This Week Which Takes On To What Should We Do Normally You Pick A Pick A Year Or Something Don't You Say I Have To Say I Need A We So I I Play Easy I'm Gonna Have A We Let's Play Easy I'm Gonna Go And Have A We Yeah And Then When We Come Back If You Pick A Year Yeah We'll Have A Look What Good Idea Plan Know It Sounds Funny But I Just Can't Stand The Pain Girl I'm Leaving You Tomorrow Seems To Me Girl You Know I Done All I Can You See A Big Store In The Borough Yeah It's Why I'm Easy I'm Easy Like Sunday Morning Yeah Yeah It's Why I'm Easy Yeah Yeah Yeah Easy Like Sunday Morning I want to be high So high I want to be free to know the things I do alright I want to be free to know the things I do Just move Just move Just move I want to be free to know the things I do Just move I want to be free to know the things I do And I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do I want to be free to know the things I do It is actually Sunday morning, isn't it? Sunday morning, yeah it is I've got to go to Ireland later Yeah For the week Maybe when you're listening to this It might not be Sunday morning Oh We've not done a time thing, have we? A future time and past time and Yeah Do you know it's a bit It's a bit weird listening to I sometimes go back and listen to old episodes That we've done Yeah, yeah It's really Like I listen Every time we've done one I listen to it all the way through Like the morning It comes out And I think God, we're amazing And then And then But sometimes I'll go back and listen to something we've done Like a year ago Yeah, yeah And I think Oh, we're awful Isn't that weird? Yeah, like you come But there's not been a We've not had a strategy meeting, have we? We've not sat and A strategy meeting We've not done bullet points Advising ourselves as to How do we improve our podcast? How do we How do we Could you imagine that? Yeah I can hear I did not like a PowerPoint Yeah How are you feeling about the name Riffology now? Do you feel like it's us yet? I keep wanting to Like when Gemma says Like where are you? I have to stop myself Doing Writing Monster Shop Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Me too And I keep I did I wrote some Code to go and do a Like a graphic For one of the memes Most of my day Sorry Is Gemma saying Where are you? Because I don't tell her That's it Where are you? But I'm the same I keep putting I keep putting Monster Shop Yeah, yeah But I do feel like Riffology's I'm starting to feel like it's us It looks nice Yeah, it does look nice But it's like It looks like somebody else's Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Do you know what I mean? It's like It takes a while A little bit I think for it to feel like It's like the year changing Isn't it? You're still writing 2024 And it's 2025 Oh, yeah It's just that That's all it is At school When you have to write the date At the top Yeah, I still do that now Because I'm still 15 I think I'm sure that's why I teach Because in my head I'm like No, no, you're still at school, mate You put like a ruler line down it Nice and neat Yeah Nice and neat Best writing Yeah, best writing First page Do you know My eldest has done his options For GCSEs this year Do you know one of the things he's studying? No Ancient Greek Really? Because he's doing Like he's a proper nerd He's just doing maths More maths Yeah Even more maths Yeah Sciences Because they're a bit like maths Yeah And then they're doing astronomy Because he quite likes astrophysics And I just got maths in it More maths Yeah, yeah And then they said to him He's got to do something That's not that Yeah So he's doing ancient Greek No, I didn't know much about ancient Greek Do you know what ancient Greek is? Maths Just maths Well, no, you can't speak here History and maths And do you know how he chose everything? Like he confided in me this week How he chose his school options And I was like, you really like history He said, oh, you have to do too much writing in that And then looking down everything Literally his options Oh, where does one not do the writing? Yeah, so everything he's chosen His favourite subjects There's no writing in that Wow You don't have to write much in maths And then everything's gone down to his least favourite Yeah, yeah Which is biology Yeah Because that's not a proper science Yeah He doesn't like that very much Because sometimes you have to write about things How do you go? You can't go through life on that, can you? Oh, that's interesting Bless him Yeah Bless him But there you go Anyway, that's his But he does that He has to draw a line And write his Write the date Yeah, do all that Brilliant You've chosen next week's Yeah, we thought about democracy Then we thought, no Sometimes we're democratic Sometimes we do a poll Yeah Yeah, not this time Because we keep Like Fat of the Land I want to say For about six or seven episodes Across the history of time We said We're definitely going to do The Fat of the Land next week Yeah And then it never happened No And we've done exactly the same For Rage Against the Machine's first album We have I really like Rage Against the Machine's album I know that they're They're probably not a cool band anymore I think No There's a lot of it Whenever you see I saw a post from Tom Morello And everybody was just Ripping them apart Going, oh yeah You are the machine Yeah, yeah, yeah And I think that'll be really interesting To To look at And obviously They're an incredibly political band The music's Like I think phenomenal Yeah But they're an incredibly political band And I think that'll be really interesting Because I'm really curious about that I think that will be Yeah, yeah, yeah Do you know what I mean? Is it How do you feel about bands Like Ted Nugent For example He's a good example So he Lots of people Have a different political spectrum To Ted Nugent Yeah And then you're like Are you still allowed to listen to his music? Yeah, yeah, yeah Do you know what I mean? Is that allowed? Are you allowed to listen to If somebody's got a different political opinion Yeah But you like their music Or Is listening to the music You saying I agree Yeah, yeah, yeah With the politics And I think that's fascinating I really think it's interesting Because Ultimately Rage Against the Machine We're just saying Yeah You know Ask questions Yeah They weren't kind of going Oh, you need to be This political party Although they did have A little bit of That leaning But Yeah, it's really interesting And you can Like I say You can see a lot of that In socials at the minute Yeah Because they're out on tour Charging $400 a ticket Yeah, exactly Yeah And it's kind of like What What are you now then? Yeah, what's that all about then? Yeah, yeah You were always telling us That, you know That was a bad thing And now Got to pay $400 To see you Wang your guitar about Yeah With your tongue Or whatever you're doing Yeah So I think that's interesting But this is one of my favourites I have this on vinyl Yeah, I've got it on vinyl Wow I've got this one on vinyl And I really, really like it It's one of the albums That I think has grown on me Over the years I liked it when it came out A bit It was quite cool Yeah But I think it's an album That I think I've learned To appreciate more But yeah, I like some of the Pink Floyd records Similar to that as well I liked them But then Yeah You know But this is one that I Regularly You know It rarely has dust on it Yeah I like this one quite a lot Wicked Again from 1992 Hmm Guess where it was recorded? Where? Yeah I don't know I actually have no idea Sound City Oh, was it? Yeah Oh, I did know that actually Yeah, I did know that I've got a Sound City plug-in And this week I recorded some guitars Yeah And then I made it sound like It was recorded in Sound City Did you sound like Tom Morello? Yes Did you go Wicca, wicca, wicca And all that No, he puts it in the room Oh, yeah It's wicked It's so good Those plug-ins are mind-belting A bit Produced by G-G-G-G-G-G-G He did He did Stoosh Yes I think this And Stoosh 90s albums Yeah, definitely That's interesting Similar energy, aren't they? They are Yeah Similar sounding And this was the one that Skin talks about As saying Yeah, when I heard this This one said it was okay Yeah, yeah, yeah For me to do politics Everyone said before You know, you can't do politics You can't do politics In music Yeah People won't like it Yeah And she said this This was the one that said it was okay Yeah, yeah, yeah And I think sonically They're quite similar Yeah, yeah, yeah And I love them both Brilliant Shall we bog off? Let's bog off