WEBVTT 1 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:28.440 That sounds really cool. Like, why. It sounds like something I should know. Like a. I don't know. Oh, it sounds like I've just switched on something that's like some kind of Samsung device. 2 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:28.880 Yes. 3 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:32.500 Sega. That's it. 4 00:00:32.500 --> 00:00:33.180 That's it. It's like that. 5 00:00:33.180 --> 00:00:38.700 My friend, we've got. We've got German things in our kitchen. They're all like washing machines and stuff. 6 00:00:38.700 --> 00:00:39.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 7 00:00:39.300 --> 00:00:51.100 And they're quite. It kind of goes like, the washing's finished. Right. My friend. My friend's got a Samsung one and it kind of goes to you. 8 00:00:52.940 --> 00:00:54.580 Yeah, I've got that. I've got a Samsung one. 9 00:00:54.580 --> 00:01:07.190 And I'm like, why feel happy when it's finished? Answered my nerve. Get it? Now what? I'm gonna just. It's very demanding. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Very demanding. 10 00:01:07.190 --> 00:01:07.630 Yeah. 11 00:01:08.590 --> 00:01:20.670 But all of it is. The whole kitchen is. So even if you leave. If the kids leave the fridge door open. Yeah, someone must have that door open if you've got a Samsung and we go like, ding, ding. 12 00:01:20.750 --> 00:01:23.390 So what car have I got? Fiat. What's that? Italian. 13 00:01:23.390 --> 00:01:24.070 Italian, yeah. 14 00:01:24.070 --> 00:01:30.510 Right. So when I leave the. Because sometimes when I get. When I get going, I don't always put my seatbelt on straight away. I'm very naughty. 15 00:01:30.510 --> 00:01:30.870 Yeah. 16 00:01:30.870 --> 00:01:36.880 And then. But it's very, very insistent. Or Italian's quite insistent. Is that a normal Italian thing? 17 00:01:36.880 --> 00:01:39.600 I don't know. But all of my Italian friends, it's very. 18 00:01:39.600 --> 00:01:45.880 It's loud. It's loud and like just that frequency where it's like, you just show up now before I, like, cave your face in. 19 00:01:45.880 --> 00:01:48.800 All of my Italian friends are, like, almost horizontal. 20 00:01:48.800 --> 00:01:50.280 Oh, really? They laid back. 21 00:01:50.280 --> 00:02:00.680 Yeah. They just couldn't care about everything except for. Yeah, like pasta. Like, if you. If you suggest. Like my youngest loves tomato sauce. 22 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:01.120 Yeah. 23 00:02:01.320 --> 00:02:13.760 Like in Italy, I think he's on a list. I think. I think he would. Like, as soon as our plane touched down, somebody would pick him up and take him to prison. You could do like. You'd probably do like nuclear weapons and stuff in Italy and never be like, yeah, whatever. 24 00:02:13.760 --> 00:02:16.840 Yeah, yeah, whatever. Source of your pasta. 25 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:32.480 Yeah, you. If you. You make a mess of your pasta and that's it, you're on a list and you're in. In some kind of prison forever. So I don't know. I don't know why this. My only memory of an Italian car. It didn't. It didn't. Like in the. It was fine in the summer and in the winter it wouldn't work. 26 00:02:32.480 --> 00:02:38.980 It interesting because mine, I had like, A battery thing on mine where it was like, might not start today in the cold. 27 00:02:38.980 --> 00:02:40.020 That is very Italian. 28 00:02:40.020 --> 00:02:40.380 Is it? 29 00:02:40.380 --> 00:02:40.900 Yeah, Yeah. 30 00:02:41.300 --> 00:02:43.780 I have to be honest, my friend had a Ducati. Same thing. 31 00:02:43.780 --> 00:02:53.500 Yeah. My friend had a Ducati. My friend had. Oh, no, it was Ducati. It was aprilia. It was 125. And the garage he bought it from, brand new. 32 00:02:53.500 --> 00:02:53.940 Yeah. 33 00:02:54.100 --> 00:03:03.060 About 18 months after he had it, they asked him not to bring it back. Can you take this somewhere else? Which I just thought was absolutely. 34 00:03:03.300 --> 00:03:05.050 Because I've got a Suzuki motorbike. 35 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:05.480 Yeah. 36 00:03:05.480 --> 00:03:08.720 And I think that if they were. If there were bits hanging off, it'd be still trying to hold it on. 37 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:09.240 Yeah. 38 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:10.800 It would be fighting just to keep going. 39 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:12.120 You know, the thing is, I had 40 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:13.880 a Honda like that. They remember that Honda car I had. 41 00:03:13.880 --> 00:03:14.240 Oh, yeah. 42 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:18.120 It done like a quarter of a million miles, just. And it was still trying to keep going. Yeah. 43 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:20.880 See, the thing is, though, is the Italian. So they just look. 44 00:03:21.119 --> 00:03:21.960 They do look lovely. 45 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:25.280 And it sounds like you can like Ducatis when you hear them go on. They're just. 46 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:33.480 Yeah, they're proper. Yeah. I'd like a monster for a bit. The thing is, because someone obviously, like, oh, what, because I've. Because I've got a 650 motorbike. 47 00:03:33.480 --> 00:03:33.760 Yeah. 48 00:03:33.760 --> 00:03:42.220 And after you've been riding for a couple of years, like, that's. You like your starter bike. So you do. Do your 125, you do your test, your CBT, and then I do one of these things where you have like a long course, like a crash course. 49 00:03:42.300 --> 00:03:42.700 Right. 50 00:03:42.780 --> 00:03:51.180 So I did that and then failed my. This is quite normal for me. Failed my theory. Yeah, a few times. 51 00:03:51.180 --> 00:03:51.740 Yeah. 52 00:03:52.540 --> 00:03:55.580 Because I'll. Same with the car, like, theory. Just not very good at it. 53 00:03:55.580 --> 00:03:55.980 Yeah. 54 00:03:56.380 --> 00:03:58.140 Didn't try, I don't think. 55 00:03:58.140 --> 00:03:58.540 Yeah. 56 00:03:58.540 --> 00:04:09.280 Didn't revise or anything practical, first time. Both. Both things. So pass your test. Do. Do the 125 thing and then pass your big test. And then I got the big bike. 57 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:09.720 Yeah. 58 00:04:09.720 --> 00:04:12.880 The big bike was in the Suzuki SV650. Lovely V twin. 59 00:04:12.880 --> 00:04:14.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 60 00:04:16.320 --> 00:04:18.560 After you've been riding a 650 for a couple of years. 61 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:19.040 Yeah. 62 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:22.040 You're a bit like, want to go faster now. 63 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:22.400 Yeah. 64 00:04:22.400 --> 00:04:26.880 Want to go faster, quicker and kind of like the. I want a bigger noise. 65 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:27.560 Yeah. 66 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:29.240 You know, I want to make more noise. 67 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:29.760 Yeah. 68 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:40.620 And there's always a conversation then that you have with other biker friends who, like, so what are you gonna go for? And everyone is very set on. I'm gonna Go for a cruiser or a sports bike or. 69 00:04:40.860 --> 00:04:41.380 Yeah, yeah. 70 00:04:41.380 --> 00:04:50.460 You know, like, I'm not necessarily, you know, what bike specifically, but a particular style. And I like, I haven't done so. Because my. My opinion on this is like yours and tattoos. 71 00:04:50.940 --> 00:04:51.820 I can't make your mind. 72 00:04:51.820 --> 00:04:54.060 I can't do it if I'll settle on something. 73 00:04:54.140 --> 00:04:54.500 Yeah. 74 00:04:54.500 --> 00:04:56.820 And then 10 minutes later it's like, oh, I like that as well. 75 00:04:56.820 --> 00:05:02.220 So the nice thing about bikes is that you could buy two because you got this when you put me in your garage. 76 00:05:02.380 --> 00:05:04.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could put more than one in there. 77 00:05:04.220 --> 00:05:15.240 Yeah. You could get like. You can get a ch. I learned on two strokes when I was at. When I was at college in school, everyone had like RG50s. 78 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:15.640 Yeah. 79 00:05:15.640 --> 00:05:21.160 125s. And then it'll be like the RG250s and things like that. Or the RD350. Everyone had those. 80 00:05:21.320 --> 00:05:21.640 Yeah. 81 00:05:21.640 --> 00:05:22.520 And they were savage. 82 00:05:22.840 --> 00:05:23.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 83 00:05:23.640 --> 00:05:27.000 They didn't make the best noises in the world, but they were dead fast. 84 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:27.480 Yeah. 85 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:31.320 Dead good. Which is. Which what it was all about when you're an age. 86 00:05:31.320 --> 00:05:33.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were they like crosser looking things? 87 00:05:33.670 --> 00:05:34.550 No, sports bikes. 88 00:05:34.550 --> 00:05:35.110 Sports bikes. 89 00:05:35.110 --> 00:05:36.910 They look like race bikes. 90 00:05:36.910 --> 00:05:37.310 Okay. 91 00:05:37.310 --> 00:05:41.030 But they were like. They're, you know, you were like little. They were dead good. 92 00:05:41.030 --> 00:05:41.670 Yeah, yeah. 93 00:05:41.670 --> 00:05:43.150 Wheelie and everything, right? 94 00:05:43.150 --> 00:05:53.630 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't tell. I think. Yeah. I think what I need to do is to get a bigger house with a bigger garage and then have five. I think five's a good number. Yeah, yeah. 95 00:05:53.630 --> 00:06:00.030 Gemma would love that, wouldn't you? Guess what I've got. What are we doing? 96 00:06:00.030 --> 00:06:01.030 Oh, yeah. I'm Chris. 97 00:06:01.570 --> 00:06:02.130 I'm Neil. 98 00:06:02.130 --> 00:06:05.250 This is not Monster Shop. No, that was a long time ago. 99 00:06:05.250 --> 00:06:06.010 He was. Yeah. 100 00:06:06.010 --> 00:06:11.650 And then Dog House before that. We were that as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 101 00:06:11.730 --> 00:06:12.530 Which is good. 102 00:06:12.610 --> 00:06:24.890 Yeah. We do a podcast, which is what you'll listen to. We are six or so minutes in and we're just talking, you know, just obviously doing our intro to the channel. Guys, the channel subscribe and, like. 103 00:06:24.890 --> 00:06:26.290 And if we ever do comments and 104 00:06:26.290 --> 00:06:28.180 just shoot stars and whatever, if we 105 00:06:28.180 --> 00:06:33.820 ever open with her, just. Welcome back to the channel. Kill me, kill me now. 106 00:06:34.780 --> 00:06:37.500 MTV's MTV Unplugged. Nirvana. 107 00:06:37.500 --> 00:06:39.820 We're doing Nirvana. MTV Unplugged in New York. 108 00:06:40.140 --> 00:06:49.420 What an album. Like one. Like, not. Not just an album, a snapshot in history, like in audio form and visual form, because obviously it was put to 109 00:06:49.740 --> 00:06:52.300 tape and dvd and it went on the dvd. 110 00:06:52.300 --> 00:06:52.940 Yeah, yeah. 111 00:06:52.940 --> 00:07:04.390 I. I didn't Realize. And this album's been like. I don't know, this album, like, for me, it was kind of just there. It was just kind of there and thereabouts. And it was a. It was. It was a cool record. Right. 112 00:07:04.390 --> 00:07:07.750 Because they had a series of them, the MTV kind of thing Brian Amsterdam wanted. 113 00:07:07.750 --> 00:07:08.110 Yeah. 114 00:07:08.110 --> 00:07:09.030 Summer of 69. 115 00:07:09.030 --> 00:07:09.350 Yeah. 116 00:07:09.350 --> 00:07:10.350 In acoustic style. 117 00:07:10.350 --> 00:07:10.949 I like that. 118 00:07:10.949 --> 00:07:11.630 Yeah, it's good. 119 00:07:11.710 --> 00:07:14.350 Yeah. Yeah. But they. They were big. 120 00:07:14.430 --> 00:07:14.910 Yeah. 121 00:07:15.150 --> 00:07:16.030 Eric Clapton. 122 00:07:16.030 --> 00:07:17.470 Yes. Yeah. 123 00:07:17.470 --> 00:07:18.630 He did an Unplugged thing. 124 00:07:18.630 --> 00:07:19.070 Yeah. 125 00:07:19.310 --> 00:07:20.870 Everyone, like, lost their minds over it. 126 00:07:20.870 --> 00:07:22.910 Yeah. Because he did, like, a version of Layla and stuff. 127 00:07:23.150 --> 00:07:25.550 Everyone else then decided, oh, we're gonna cash in on that. 128 00:07:25.550 --> 00:07:26.230 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 129 00:07:26.230 --> 00:07:44.610 So loads bands did them and MTV did these. This. This series of. Of MTV Unplugged, which Kurt Cobain hated. Despised. Yeah, all of it. So they just sounded driven. Didn't like them, didn't want to do it, had no plans to do it. And they badgered and begged. 130 00:07:44.610 --> 00:07:45.090 Yeah. 131 00:07:45.090 --> 00:07:48.610 Over and over and over for him to do it and just didn't want to do it. 132 00:07:48.610 --> 00:07:48.930 Yeah. 133 00:07:48.930 --> 00:07:50.290 Even, I mean, Dave Grohl didn't. 134 00:07:50.290 --> 00:07:54.010 Didn't want to do it. Didn't enjoy doing it when he finished. Didn't really like it. 135 00:07:54.170 --> 00:07:55.210 Well, he thought it. 136 00:07:55.290 --> 00:07:57.290 He thought people didn't like it. People didn't enjoy it. 137 00:07:57.290 --> 00:08:11.870 Fascinating. He said he got to the end. He thought the silence meant that people didn't like it. Yeah. The producer, they were like. Everyone else had done big banging hits and just like, switched the distortion off. 138 00:08:11.870 --> 00:08:12.310 Yeah. 139 00:08:12.870 --> 00:08:21.750 And then they got Nirvana to come and do it and they said no, like, 12 times. Eventually agreed to do it. But there are no hits. 140 00:08:22.950 --> 00:08:25.430 There's no Teen Spirit. There's no. There's nothing like that. 141 00:08:25.510 --> 00:08:26.430 It's got Virtue. 142 00:08:26.430 --> 00:08:29.550 Come as you are is probably the biggest thing that's on there, isn't it? 143 00:08:29.550 --> 00:08:33.290 It's not a Nevermind alb. That's it. This is Bleach kicks off with a track from Bleach. 144 00:08:33.290 --> 00:08:34.090 Yeah, yeah. 145 00:08:34.090 --> 00:08:36.210 And then there's a new tro and the rest of, like, covers. 146 00:08:36.210 --> 00:08:39.690 Yeah, yeah. This is off our first album. You probably don't know. It's that kind of thing. 147 00:08:39.690 --> 00:08:40.770 It's mad. 148 00:08:40.850 --> 00:08:41.410 And then. 149 00:08:41.490 --> 00:08:41.850 And then. 150 00:08:41.850 --> 00:08:52.290 And they like this, like the band. Who are the. Who are the two guys from the band that were playing with them because they ended up playing just a load of their songs as well as part of the thing. 151 00:08:52.370 --> 00:08:57.410 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. So this. Yeah. There's. There's the Meat puppets. 152 00:08:57.410 --> 00:08:59.250 Meat puppets. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 153 00:08:59.680 --> 00:09:01.280 But then also, you've got Pat Smear. 154 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:02.240 Yeah, yeah. 155 00:09:02.400 --> 00:09:03.200 Who. Who did. 156 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:10.960 Well, he was knocking about, wasn't he? He was kind of part of the gang. And he obviously. He obviously became, you know, Foo Fighters later with Dave Roll and all that sort of stuff. 157 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:14.800 So. He did. And I don't. Oh, they had Laurie Goldston as well. 158 00:09:14.800 --> 00:09:15.279 Yeah. Who. 159 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:20.880 He gets her name wrong, really. Which I only really like. Again, this. You know, we. I love doing these shows because you kind of. You get to dig. 160 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:22.320 So that's a cello player. 161 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:22.680 Yeah. 162 00:09:22.680 --> 00:09:23.040 Yeah. 163 00:09:23.040 --> 00:09:27.600 He calls a Laurie Goldstein. And if you listen to it and you. And you watch the dvd. 164 00:09:27.680 --> 00:09:28.160 Yeah. 165 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:35.180 For anyone with such a thing in your DVD player. And he calls a Lori Goldstein. 166 00:09:35.180 --> 00:09:35.580 Yeah. 167 00:09:35.580 --> 00:09:39.380 To. That stays on there. Yeah. And there's just. I. 168 00:09:39.380 --> 00:09:45.180 Because he wasn't well, was he? That's the thing, is that. Well, he. He was, like, on a. He was on a downer off the day before. 169 00:09:45.820 --> 00:09:49.260 Like, he. He didn't, like, when you said. Quite correct, he didn't want to do it. 170 00:09:49.260 --> 00:09:49.580 No. 171 00:09:50.380 --> 00:10:01.520 Almost committed to doing it, but only, like, if he could bring the meat puppets with him. And the producers didn't want to do that. They wanted, like, smell. Team spirit, please. Yeah. And then they wanted Eddie Vedder. 172 00:10:01.520 --> 00:10:02.000 Yeah. 173 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:24.760 And to come and guest on it. And he asked for the meat puppets to come. Which the producers probably had to look up on. Yeah. You know, in the phone book or ever to figure out who they were. And then. And then, like. So there's no big hits. The. The guests. He's got that producers don't recognize. You know, they. 174 00:10:24.760 --> 00:10:26.720 They wanted to dress the stage like it was a funeral. 175 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:33.820 Funeral. Yeah. And so it's kind of really dark. And, like, in. With hindsight, you know, he. He would die. 176 00:10:33.820 --> 00:10:34.940 Not, like five months later. 177 00:10:34.940 --> 00:10:35.900 Yeah. That long after. 178 00:10:35.900 --> 00:10:38.820 Yeah. Yeah. November 18, 1993. 179 00:10:39.380 --> 00:10:41.860 You know, it was cold out there. It was that kind of New York 180 00:10:41.860 --> 00:10:43.140 holiday mood in the air. 181 00:10:43.140 --> 00:10:49.860 It was kind of festive. It was just getting to that. You know, everyone's wrapping up the year, and it was really. It was gonna be our last taping of the year for Unplugged, so it 182 00:10:49.860 --> 00:10:52.620 was kind of cool in that respect, too. We're gonna get it on, you know, 183 00:10:52.620 --> 00:10:53.700 hopefully for the holidays. 184 00:10:53.700 --> 00:10:54.660 That was the game plan. 185 00:10:55.460 --> 00:13:42.350 I'm not filming I can pretend the sun's gone the heavy light the day is done I'm having fun I think I'm done maybe just happy Think I'm just happy Think I'm just happy Think I'm just happy. My heart is broke I have some glue Build me hill Melted with you we'll float around Hang out on clouds Then we'll come down Never hang over Never hang over Never hang over Never hang over. Still the sun fall asleep Wish you wait so. Wake me up I'm not like them back in Pretend the sun is gone I have a light the day is done I'm having fun I think I'm dumb, baby Just happy maybe I'm just happy Just think I'm just happy Think I'm just happy. I think I'm down I think I'm down I think I'm down I think I'm down I think I'm down I think I'm down I think I'm down I think I'm down I think I'm down I think I'm down I think I'm down I think I'm down. We talk about these things being a point in time. 186 00:13:42.430 --> 00:13:42.910 Yeah. 187 00:13:44.140 --> 00:13:46.260 But this one's kind. It feels more than that. This one. 188 00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:46.580 Yeah. 189 00:13:46.580 --> 00:14:08.500 It's not just like a recording of a state in. In. Because, like. Like, he didn't want to do it. He was badgered into it. They. They did all this stuff and kind of, you know, he. He. They kind of coerced him and I think pandered a little bit so he could go and do. I don't think the producers expected it to do particularly well because it didn't have all the big hits on it. The day before, he was on a massive drug come down. 190 00:14:08.500 --> 00:14:08.860 Yeah. 191 00:14:08.860 --> 00:14:19.130 And like, couldn't play, couldn't do anything and was basically saying, I'm not. I'm not doing anything. Was recorded in Hell's Kitchen at the Sony Studios. 192 00:14:19.130 --> 00:14:19.490 Yeah. 193 00:14:19.490 --> 00:14:28.210 And obviously all the producers there, they had an audience full of people and everything was. But they didn't ex. They were like, 50, 50 whether. Whether it was going to show up 194 00:14:28.210 --> 00:14:28.810 and it was gonna happen. 195 00:14:28.810 --> 00:14:29.850 He was gonna turn up. 196 00:14:29.850 --> 00:14:30.850 Yeah. The office chair. 197 00:14:31.090 --> 00:14:31.570 Yeah. 198 00:14:31.650 --> 00:14:32.610 You didn't like the stool. 199 00:14:32.610 --> 00:14:39.730 It did turn up and then didn't like the stall. So literally we just went in the Sony building and got an office chair. An office chair. And then. 200 00:14:40.130 --> 00:14:45.100 See, I do stuff like that because, yeah. I'm like, I don't like this one. You have that one. 201 00:14:46.060 --> 00:15:02.140 But then. Then essentially, so. So everyone's like, it might not record this. Yeah, it might not happen. You've got, you know, all these, like, super cool people there. So you got Beth, you got Scott Litt, who. Who produce it, produced REM And A bunch of other stuff. So. Yes. 202 00:15:02.140 --> 00:15:03.300 And he mixed it, didn't he? 203 00:15:03.300 --> 00:15:26.770 Yeah, we mixed some stuff up in Utro as well. So I think he knew the. The band reasonably well. But. But so, so, you know, you got this all. All kind of all star cast of people not knowing if it's going to happen and eventually turns up there and literally bangs out a one take, 14 track thing and like nothing's. And. And reading the history of these MTV Unplugs. MTV Unplugged. 204 00:15:26.770 --> 00:15:28.090 They do multiple takes. They do. 205 00:15:28.090 --> 00:15:29.770 Yeah. There's tons of chopping. 206 00:15:29.770 --> 00:15:30.210 Yeah. 207 00:15:30.210 --> 00:15:38.050 Oh, no, I'm just going to redo that bit again and I didn't like that bit and. Oh, actually, you know, we can. And. But Nirvana, they did two days of rehearsals. 208 00:15:38.050 --> 00:15:38.480 Yeah. 209 00:15:39.590 --> 00:15:45.590 In New York and then they. And then they. Yeah, they just. Just smashed out this in one go and then left. 210 00:15:45.670 --> 00:15:46.150 Yeah. 211 00:15:47.430 --> 00:16:15.830 But I think it says more about where the band were at the time as well, because the live shows were chaotic at this point in time. They. They were either like a mess or like just transcendent experiences. You know, they were either like otherworldly and. And phenomenal or like, you know, Kurt would be just a mess. Unable. You're unable to get through songs completely. Not finishing the set. 212 00:16:15.830 --> 00:16:16.150 Yeah. 213 00:16:16.150 --> 00:16:19.110 Not turning up. Turning up late a bit. Axl Rosesque. 214 00:16:19.110 --> 00:16:19.430 Yes. 215 00:16:19.430 --> 00:16:47.210 He was. He was, you know, smashed off his face on heroin for a large part of it and really suffering with pain and he had lots of stomach pain and stuff. So he was. He was not in a good place physically and just really struggling, you know, so he was either, you know, on. On massive come downs or in pain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you keep catching. He's like bottling lightning. If you caught him at the right time and it just happened to fall at the right time. And then you get this amazing live experience. 216 00:16:47.210 --> 00:16:48.010 Yeah, yeah. 217 00:16:48.090 --> 00:16:54.730 But clearly unwell. And then this. And for me, this is interesting. This is. This just bottled a good. A good night. 218 00:16:54.730 --> 00:16:55.130 Yeah. 219 00:16:55.130 --> 00:16:56.570 You know, their live show. 220 00:16:56.570 --> 00:16:57.050 Yeah. 221 00:16:57.530 --> 00:17:11.540 This is almost just bottling. Bottling that. It's kind of, you know, recording that. The state of where they are. But the stories of the. The state of the band, the stories of the state of Kurt at that point. And then of course that has an impact on the band. 222 00:17:11.540 --> 00:17:11.860 Yes. 223 00:17:11.860 --> 00:17:12.100 You know. 224 00:17:12.100 --> 00:17:12.460 Yeah. 225 00:17:12.700 --> 00:17:20.540 It's interesting. You hear like no one in Nirvana ever said anything bad about Kurt, but at the time they were really struggling. 226 00:17:20.620 --> 00:17:20.980 Yeah. 227 00:17:20.980 --> 00:20:12.360 Dave Grohl said it was. It was really traumatic. You know, they. They kind of just wanted to get on and play yeah and. And they could see Kurt was tearing himself apart. He was really, really struggling and not being able to help. Polly wants a cracker Think I shook it off the first think she wants water to put out the blow toss doesn't mean. Promise you haven't you let me take a ride want some help myself. Falling wants a cracker maybe she would like more food Ask me to entire too and didn't ask for me heaven see let me clear up Dirty wings Let me take a ride Hurt yourself want some help and myself got some love heaven promise you let me take a ride Hurt yourself. Polly said. Paulie says her back hurts she just wanted me she come me off my guard Misses me the will. Am I got some love promise you heaven. 228 00:20:24.840 --> 00:20:26.920 It sounds pretty good. The acoustic stuff. 229 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:27.760 I mean, it's kind of hard to 230 00:20:27.760 --> 00:20:31.960 put that over to a big crowd of fans that are waiting to mosh, you know. 231 00:20:32.120 --> 00:20:34.850 But the recent shows, they've been interspersing them. 232 00:20:34.850 --> 00:20:35.890 It's been really nice. 233 00:20:35.890 --> 00:20:39.090 They're really good. It's a really good change of pace. The choices of tracks. 234 00:20:39.090 --> 00:20:39.570 Yes. 235 00:20:39.570 --> 00:20:59.810 On here. If it feels. If it feels like a statement, if that makes sense. Not that any album isn't a statement, but it really feels like this was so deliberately, you know, not picking the track that had blown up from Nevermind. 236 00:20:59.810 --> 00:21:00.530 Yeah, yeah. 237 00:21:00.530 --> 00:21:08.710 Almost as if. And we talked about this when we did cover Nevermind and when we did it when we did in Utro and Utah was the first Riffology we ever did. 238 00:21:08.710 --> 00:21:09.310 Yeah, it was. 239 00:21:09.870 --> 00:21:20.669 Yeah. But like he. He was almost embarrassed of Nevermind and I think it's really interesting for me. It's really interesting. 240 00:21:20.910 --> 00:21:23.310 Like it sold his soul or. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 241 00:21:23.550 --> 00:21:26.430 Embarrassed about the success. 242 00:21:26.670 --> 00:21:27.070 Yeah. 243 00:21:27.070 --> 00:21:37.050 It had. Had and the polish that you're so much so that, you know, obviously Butch Vig had done the production and polished it a little bit. And then going with Steve Albin. Utero. 244 00:21:37.050 --> 00:21:38.890 Yeah, yeah. Get a different sound. 245 00:21:38.970 --> 00:21:47.570 Yeah, this kind of raw sound. And then almost like take it like. Then this for me is like a next step in that. The production of this is exquisite. 246 00:21:47.570 --> 00:21:47.970 Yeah. 247 00:21:47.970 --> 00:21:59.050 Absolutely gorgeously done. But you know, the choices of the songs and the guests are properly like, actually, this is who I am. 248 00:21:59.050 --> 00:21:59.450 Yeah. 249 00:21:59.690 --> 00:22:05.040 I kind of get that you. Everybody wants. Smells like team spirit, but. 250 00:22:05.040 --> 00:22:06.040 But this is what we're about. 251 00:22:06.040 --> 00:22:08.360 Yeah. This is. This is me. This is. This is where I am. 252 00:22:08.760 --> 00:22:13.240 Yeah. Because he had that cardigan, but underneath it was like an unknown band T shirt. He got the guys from the meat Puppets. 253 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:13.600 Yeah. 254 00:22:13.600 --> 00:22:17.560 Come into play and played their songs, not his songs. And. Yeah, it's all that sort of stuff, wasn't it? 255 00:22:17.560 --> 00:22:21.120 It was. It's mad. The. The history behind that stuff's phenomenal as well. 256 00:22:21.120 --> 00:22:21.480 The. 257 00:22:22.120 --> 00:22:31.950 I might get a little bit of this mixed up, but the. The cardigan was given to the nanny of his daughter, I think. 258 00:22:31.950 --> 00:22:32.350 Yeah. 259 00:22:33.070 --> 00:22:49.790 And then she's. In 2019, she sold it for like 3 or $400,000. It's never been washed, still got like cigarette burns and buttons missing and stuff. And then the Martin you're going to correct, the model is a D150 18. D18. 260 00:22:49.870 --> 00:22:52.030 Yeah. I don't know, actually. But yeah, the. 261 00:22:52.670 --> 00:22:58.670 So that. That guitar was the last guitar he ever played. He bought it for $5,000. 262 00:22:59.470 --> 00:23:00.430 And wasn't it millions? 263 00:23:01.630 --> 00:23:03.390 Well, bizarrely, because that went to his daughter. 264 00:23:03.550 --> 00:23:04.030 Yeah. 265 00:23:04.190 --> 00:23:08.430 And then in her divorce, that ended up going to her husband. 266 00:23:08.430 --> 00:23:08.830 Yeah. 267 00:23:08.830 --> 00:23:09.510 Not to her. 268 00:23:09.510 --> 00:23:10.270 For settlement. 269 00:23:10.270 --> 00:23:12.510 For part of settlement. And then. 270 00:23:13.230 --> 00:23:13.950 And then he. 271 00:23:14.190 --> 00:23:15.029 He sold it. 272 00:23:15.029 --> 00:23:16.150 Sold it to the guy from Road. 273 00:23:16.150 --> 00:23:17.950 Yeah, that was the guy that owned Road. 274 00:23:17.950 --> 00:23:18.190 Yeah. 275 00:23:18.190 --> 00:23:23.070 And he bought it for $6 million. Wow. And then he gave it to the museums. In a museum? 276 00:23:23.070 --> 00:23:24.630 Yeah, they're all Royal Society music. 277 00:23:24.630 --> 00:23:29.390 That's it. Yeah, it's in the museum. And at the time, it was the most expensive guitar ever. 278 00:23:29.390 --> 00:23:29.670 Ever. 279 00:23:29.670 --> 00:24:01.270 Yeah, ever. Ever sold. And it's just crazy. I don't know. I love that law. I love that kind of stuff. Yeah. The history. History to it. Yeah, I do. And we talked a little bit about the tone, but it's. There are bits of this, like, the beginning of dumb. The way they managed to pick up the. The, like the. The. The click of the plectrum and stuff is kind of there. But it's. It's weird. Like, it feels like, you know, when you listen to you, you're very aware it's not acoustic. 280 00:24:01.270 --> 00:24:02.110 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 281 00:24:02.110 --> 00:24:06.150 And it. Because his guitar was. They. They ran his guitar through a cable. 282 00:24:08.550 --> 00:24:12.310 But the amp. It wasn't the amp. It was hidden, covered, like it was a monitor. 283 00:24:12.310 --> 00:24:13.030 Yeah, but it was. 284 00:24:13.030 --> 00:24:16.230 But it was. It was actually a Fender hot Fender twin reverb. 285 00:24:16.230 --> 00:24:16.590 That's it. 286 00:24:16.590 --> 00:24:16.830 Yeah. 287 00:24:16.830 --> 00:24:19.830 Yeah. So he did that. And apparently he wouldn't do it without it. 288 00:24:19.830 --> 00:24:20.590 Yeah, yeah. 289 00:24:20.590 --> 00:24:26.330 So he wouldn't. He wouldn't play without it. But it's interesting because the. Like, it doesn't. I mean, it sounds great. 290 00:24:26.410 --> 00:24:26.850 Yeah. 291 00:24:26.850 --> 00:24:35.530 But it's like really clearly not acoustic. And it's. There are bits in there where it's so driven, it sounds almost distorted. Yeah. Through to it. 292 00:24:36.250 --> 00:24:42.010 Well, it's like Kim as you all's got that chorus sound. Yeah, he's got chorus on it anyway. On the track. 293 00:24:54.490 --> 00:28:07.650 Come as you are There's a word as I want you to be There's a friend, There's a friend There's a no end of me Take your time Very young justice yours don't relate Take a rest Hella friend yes, I know Memory, memory, memory, memory. Calm down Some mud soft of bleach Yes I want you to be There's a trend There's a friend Yes, I know that. When I swear that I don't have a gun have a gun no, I don't have a gun. Sam. Sa. When I swear I don't have a gun no, I don't have a gun no, I don't have a gun no, I don't have a gun no, I don't have a gun no, I don't have a gun Sam. 294 00:28:29.390 --> 00:28:36.510 So interesting with that, with Nirvana's use of chorus because I have this chat with Dan sometimes about chorus, like. Because it's not a very cool effect to use. 295 00:28:36.750 --> 00:28:37.390 Not anymore. 296 00:28:37.390 --> 00:28:50.190 No. And it was used like a lot in the 80s for that kind of, you know, shimmery guitar sound. I suppose in some instances it's used subtly when it's used, you know, with delay and things these days. But like, Kurt made it cool. 297 00:28:50.270 --> 00:28:55.310 Who, who, who, who does? So Nirvana make chorus call. Who else make. Makes chorus cool? 298 00:28:55.310 --> 00:28:56.750 I don't know. Because it's a cheesy effect. 299 00:28:57.390 --> 00:28:59.550 I was gonna say Linkin park, but I don't know. Is that. 300 00:29:00.030 --> 00:29:08.630 Yeah, I don't think they use that. I think they. They might use another for like a. Like a flat, like a flange or a phaser. It has similar modulation effects on the guitar tone. 301 00:29:08.630 --> 00:29:08.990 It's not. 302 00:29:09.070 --> 00:29:12.390 But it might not be a chorus sort of thing. It might be more. 303 00:29:12.390 --> 00:29:16.510 Yeah, it's write in and tell us if you know. If you know somebody. 304 00:29:18.270 --> 00:29:21.500 But. Yeah, that is part of his sound. But he somehow managed to make it really cool. 305 00:29:22.530 --> 00:29:32.810 It's the other thing that this does for me as well, which I think Chris Cornell benefits massively from this as well. Is that the paired back songs. 306 00:29:32.810 --> 00:29:33.330 Yeah. 307 00:29:33.490 --> 00:29:34.290 His voice. 308 00:29:34.530 --> 00:29:35.050 Yeah. 309 00:29:35.050 --> 00:29:48.810 Because his voice gets a little. Getting lost is not. It's not what I mean. But it's. The songs take on a different. It's like a different tone to them. They have like a. They have like a different flow. 310 00:29:48.810 --> 00:29:49.090 Yeah. 311 00:29:49.090 --> 00:30:06.570 They feel different. And. And most of that for me is. Is Kurt's voice. I think as well, it gets really interesting as he goes from track to track. It kind of feels like. Like the voice. His voice, it just seems to get better and better. 312 00:30:06.570 --> 00:30:07.050 Yeah. 313 00:30:08.410 --> 00:30:09.850 There are bits in there where the. 314 00:30:09.930 --> 00:30:11.610 If he's not well and he's been poorly. 315 00:30:11.610 --> 00:30:12.090 Yeah. 316 00:30:12.090 --> 00:30:13.690 Like, physiologically. 317 00:30:13.690 --> 00:30:14.170 Yeah. 318 00:30:14.170 --> 00:30:16.010 He's going to struggle with. His voice is going to be straining. 319 00:30:16.010 --> 00:30:25.650 Oh, yeah. Well. So the other thing that I think is interesting is he purposely chose to sing the Meat Puppets tracks in difficult keys. 320 00:30:25.650 --> 00:30:26.090 Yeah. 321 00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:32.730 So not the normal key that he would sing in. He chose to sing them to make his voice strain. 322 00:30:32.730 --> 00:30:33.170 Yeah. 323 00:30:33.170 --> 00:30:45.680 More. Yeah. Which again, leads to. It's quite like. It's quite an emotional album. Like, not in an Alice in Chains, slit your wrists. I mean, it is a bit slit your wrists album, but it does. I mean, it's quite. It's melancholy, isn't it? It's kind of a bit. 324 00:30:46.230 --> 00:30:46.470 Yeah. 325 00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:48.070 Do you know what I mean? It's. It's got that. 326 00:30:49.590 --> 00:30:58.510 I. I think it sounds quite meditative. Meditative as a record. I sort of like, kind of relax into it. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 327 00:30:58.510 --> 00:30:58.830 Yeah. 328 00:30:58.830 --> 00:31:00.950 Like. Like you just saw Zone in zone into zone. 329 00:31:00.950 --> 00:31:07.350 I love it. I do. I've got. This is one I've got on vinyl and I'll put it on there. And you, like before, you know, it's, you know. 330 00:31:07.830 --> 00:31:08.550 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 331 00:31:08.550 --> 00:31:14.770 And you need to go change. It goes really. For me, it. It like. It like melds time. You just kind of. 332 00:31:14.850 --> 00:31:17.130 Yeah, yeah. You're sort of inside something else for a little while. 333 00:31:17.130 --> 00:31:17.850 It's weird. 334 00:31:17.850 --> 00:31:19.090 Yeah. I totally hear that. 335 00:31:19.330 --> 00:31:32.610 Do you know, I find it's weird that there's music that does that. Like, there are bands that I know will do that to me and bands that I know won't do it to me. Right. So if I put on AC dc, that's not going to do it to me. I will be listening to it and I'll be. Yeah. 336 00:31:32.610 --> 00:31:33.290 And it'll be brilliant. 337 00:31:33.290 --> 00:31:34.690 And I mean, I'm in the moment. 338 00:31:34.690 --> 00:31:35.050 Yeah. 339 00:31:35.050 --> 00:31:47.300 I'm kind of totally there and I'm in it. Iron Maiden might be the same and Slayer and lots of prong are a bit like that for me as well. Yeah, yeah. But like Dillinger. Dillinger Escape Plan. 340 00:31:47.300 --> 00:31:47.980 Yeah, yeah. 341 00:31:47.980 --> 00:31:53.460 That has me in that weird state where I'll start listening to it and as soon as the music. Because it gets a little bit chaotic. 342 00:31:53.460 --> 00:31:53.820 Yeah. 343 00:31:53.820 --> 00:32:02.260 As soon as you kind of get that, that's it. I'm kind of almost in this tunnel and. And then, you know, the records at the end of the run out and I've. Yeah. 20 minutes has disappeared. 344 00:32:02.260 --> 00:32:02.580 Yeah. 345 00:32:02.580 --> 00:32:11.150 And this does that to me, which is weird for a slow album. For me, this is like. This is an album that I would. I wouldn't expect it to do it. Yeah, it absolutely does. 346 00:32:12.190 --> 00:32:20.070 I. I think I might have said this before maybe when we did a previous Nirvana album, but my relationship with Nirvana is very much through their live stuff. 347 00:32:20.070 --> 00:32:20.990 The Muddy Banks. 348 00:32:20.990 --> 00:32:22.030 The Muddy Banks of the Wish. 349 00:32:22.030 --> 00:32:24.670 That. But it's interesting. What, because that came out in 96. 350 00:32:24.750 --> 00:32:25.190 Yeah. 351 00:32:25.190 --> 00:32:27.030 So way, way after this. 352 00:32:27.030 --> 00:32:27.470 Yeah. 353 00:32:28.590 --> 00:32:30.750 I think it was recorded in 91 or 92. 354 00:32:30.750 --> 00:32:31.470 Yeah. Yeah. 355 00:32:32.190 --> 00:32:33.190 That's full of hits. 356 00:32:33.190 --> 00:32:33.990 Yeah. Yeah. 357 00:32:33.990 --> 00:32:36.310 And I think partly because Kurt is not here. 358 00:32:36.310 --> 00:32:37.550 Yeah. Yeah. He couldn't make a call 359 00:32:39.450 --> 00:32:49.850 the. The blog for this. It's kind of really hit me that that's almost like the antithesis of this one. Right. Yeah, it's like the opposite of this. It was. It was. It's recorded live. 360 00:32:49.930 --> 00:32:50.410 Yeah. 361 00:32:51.290 --> 00:33:01.930 But it's. It's electric, it's driven, and it's full of. Not full off, but it's. You know, a lot of it is off. Off. Nevermind. It's got. There's some big. Big bangers on there. 362 00:33:03.050 --> 00:33:24.600 Yeah. It's interesting because, like, I. This is gonna sound awful, but I don't necessarily enjoy listening to the studio records from Nirvana as much as I enjoy watching them and listening to them live on video or whatever. Like, I never saw them live. I never saw them in person live. I was. I was probably. I was a bit too young. But like, the. 363 00:33:24.600 --> 00:33:24.960 The. 364 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:25.720 The recordings. 365 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:25.920 Is. 366 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.560 The Counting Crows are the same. The Counting Crows did the across the Wire album. 367 00:33:29.560 --> 00:33:30.000 Oh, yeah. 368 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:31.290 And that's the one that I connect with. 369 00:33:31.760 --> 00:33:32.160 Is it? 370 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:39.280 Yeah, more. More than. I mean, I. I love obviously, Recovering the Satellites, one of my favorite albums, but that. That kind of around just after that era. 371 00:33:39.360 --> 00:33:39.720 Yeah. 372 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:44.720 And they. It was. I think it was just before they did the one after this. Desert Life, I think. 373 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:47.200 Yeah. This doesn't. Life. Yeah. The COVID for that. 374 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:59.160 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then they did the. This kind of like Live across the Wire in New York type thing. I think they're great live. Yeah. Really good. That was the. That was the album that I had the relationship with. 375 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:08.290 Well, they're another band that I think just kind of effortlessly. I say effortlessly. They're a band that. That would just work really, really well. Yeah. 376 00:34:08.290 --> 00:34:13.570 Yeah. It's strange because when you watch them, because I've seen them a couple of times, they're in their own Little worlds. 377 00:34:13.570 --> 00:34:14.250 Yeah, yeah. 378 00:34:14.250 --> 00:34:18.330 It's like they're not. You know what I mean? I mean there's chemistry between them, but 379 00:34:18.330 --> 00:34:20.050 it's chemistry because they're not running up and down. 380 00:34:20.770 --> 00:34:25.650 Yeah, yeah, there's chemistry in a way that they've played together for years and they know each other inside out. 381 00:34:25.650 --> 00:34:29.310 They don't even need to look. They don't know even looking at each other. Yeah, yeah, it's. 382 00:34:30.110 --> 00:34:35.070 And I got that same thing from, from Nirvana. They were all inhabiting their own individual space. 383 00:34:35.230 --> 00:34:35.590 Yeah. 384 00:34:35.590 --> 00:34:38.430 But they sort of. They were sort of totally tuned into each other when they were playing. 385 00:34:38.430 --> 00:34:51.830 So I read Dave Gro. I read. I think the Dave Gro wrote about this recording saying that they. They did two. See, they were in Weehawken, I think, in. In New York for two days before they did this rehearsing. 386 00:34:51.830 --> 00:34:52.150 Yeah. 387 00:34:52.150 --> 00:34:53.470 And he said just wasn't working. 388 00:34:53.470 --> 00:34:53.870 No. 389 00:34:53.870 --> 00:35:00.290 So it just was not. The songs didn't work. He couldn't figure out how to play the drums. 390 00:35:00.290 --> 00:35:00.690 Yeah. 391 00:35:00.690 --> 00:35:02.490 In a way he really struggled, didn't he? 392 00:35:02.490 --> 00:35:03.490 Because he was such a hard hitting 393 00:35:03.490 --> 00:35:34.570 drummer and he just. Just like, just wasn't. You know, it was said everybody was frustrated. Like, you know, Kurt was. Was high for some of it and then came down really hard at the end. And so that just wasn't working for them. They couldn't figure out which songs, couldn't agree on which songs and they just couldn't get the sound right. And so they kind of said it roughly, kind of fell together at the end, but nobody was happy. Like no one member of that band were in a state where they felt, yeah, we've got this nailed. 394 00:35:34.570 --> 00:35:35.170 Yeah, yeah. 395 00:35:35.170 --> 00:35:37.970 And then of course, Kurt was having a massive come down the day before. 396 00:35:38.050 --> 00:35:38.490 Yeah. 397 00:35:38.490 --> 00:36:03.510 And then so like nobody, not even the band really knew what was going to happen when they went into this, into the. The Sony studios to record this thing, which I think, I mean we've talked about this before, but I think they're really special records for me. Don't feel. I mean there are a couple of exceptions to this, but they don't normally feel like they've been agonized. No. 398 00:36:03.510 --> 00:36:04.230 Yeah, yeah. 399 00:36:04.390 --> 00:36:14.110 You know, they've got this like, like rock and roll live kind of live wire vibe, you know, I mean, where it feels like it's. I don't know, like alive. 400 00:36:14.110 --> 00:36:14.470 Yeah. 401 00:36:14.470 --> 00:36:28.050 You know, not live. But if, you know, if the thing feels like it's. I've got some energy, it's got some. Got some kind of life of its own, you know. The reason I was thinking there's. Example. There's. There. There are, I think, you know, like Def Leppards. 402 00:36:28.050 --> 00:36:28.850 Yeah, yeah. 403 00:36:29.410 --> 00:36:45.770 Hysteria. That. I mean, that's quite clearly. You're super polished. Yeah, but. But I think. I think that, like, for an album like this one, especially when Nirvana were. If Scott Litt had. Have. Had. Have polished off the rough edges. 404 00:36:45.770 --> 00:36:46.370 Yeah, yeah. 405 00:36:46.370 --> 00:36:50.850 And there aren't many bits in there where it's kind of out of key and stuff, but it's. There are just bits in there where 406 00:36:50.850 --> 00:36:52.210 it's kind of imperfections. 407 00:36:52.210 --> 00:36:52.690 Yeah. 408 00:36:53.230 --> 00:36:53.470 Moments. 409 00:36:53.470 --> 00:36:54.310 Better description of it. 410 00:36:54.310 --> 00:36:54.670 Yeah. 411 00:36:54.990 --> 00:37:07.710 And, you know, I think if he'd have gone and over, you know, if. If that had. Have gone through Pro Tools and been a little bit perfected like they did with Freddie Mercury's voice. 412 00:37:07.710 --> 00:37:07.990 Yeah. 413 00:37:07.990 --> 00:37:12.670 You remember, they. They. They went back to some of the original Queen recordings and. 414 00:37:12.670 --> 00:37:13.630 And Pro Tools. Him. 415 00:37:13.630 --> 00:37:34.810 They pitched Freddie Mercury's voice. Just the abuse that the. The team got for that. To talk about not understanding the audience, but the same. It's. It feels alive, it feels the emotion. There's a connection. And maybe that's what you get from this as well. That, you know, like, you. There's a. There's definitely a connection that you get. 416 00:37:34.810 --> 00:37:35.970 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 417 00:37:36.610 --> 00:37:41.090 That, like, you don't always get from live albums or from any album. 418 00:37:41.090 --> 00:37:43.210 Yeah, no. Yeah. I think you hit the nail on the head. Yeah. 419 00:37:43.210 --> 00:37:54.630 But is. There is definitely a. Yeah, you. You. I think. I mean, looking back on it, I think being in the room, it would have felt special. 420 00:37:54.710 --> 00:37:55.070 Yeah. 421 00:37:55.070 --> 00:38:06.510 This would have felt really, really special to be. To be there. I think the band, you know, would have. If you imagine that stress and pressure like, this is not going to work, it's going to be a disaster, you know, and then for it to just flow and. 422 00:38:06.510 --> 00:38:06.950 Yeah. 423 00:38:07.110 --> 00:38:11.430 To do all 14 tracks pretty much without a. They didn't do anything twice. 424 00:38:11.510 --> 00:38:11.910 No. 425 00:38:13.510 --> 00:38:18.710 And then to have Kurt die and this be the last real proper thing that was recorded. 426 00:38:18.710 --> 00:38:19.000 Yeah. 427 00:38:20.750 --> 00:38:21.710 You know, it makes it. 428 00:38:22.670 --> 00:38:24.110 It's a special thing, isn't it? 429 00:38:24.270 --> 00:38:37.470 It is. It's. It's. It's kind of what makes music super special. You know, it's kind of the people that talked about this album, you know, David Bowie. David Bowie joked about it, that everyone 430 00:38:37.470 --> 00:38:39.950 thinks that he wrote man who Saw the World. 431 00:38:40.910 --> 00:38:48.740 Everyone thought it was a Nirvana track. Is it. Neil Young talks about the. You know, the. The. The performance. 432 00:38:49.060 --> 00:38:49.540 Yeah. 433 00:38:50.100 --> 00:38:56.620 Where did you sleep last night? And stuff. And then even at the end, the producer was desperate to try and get them to do an encore. 434 00:38:56.620 --> 00:38:57.700 Yeah. And he was like, no. 435 00:38:57.940 --> 00:38:58.740 Was like, I can't. 436 00:38:58.740 --> 00:39:02.700 I can't do it. They don't. They don't like it. They didn't want to hear any. Well, there was a bit of that, wasn't it? 437 00:39:02.700 --> 00:39:04.740 It's a bit where he beat that. 438 00:39:04.740 --> 00:39:06.180 Oh, I see. Sorry. Right. 439 00:39:06.420 --> 00:39:12.420 I can't. Can't do anymore. And then. And then it finished. And then he felt that he let everybody down. 440 00:39:12.420 --> 00:39:12.820 Y. 441 00:39:17.600 --> 00:43:14.790 Got so high scratching our plan Love myself better than you and know it's wrong what should I do? The finest day I've ever had Was when I learned crawl from mound Love myself better you know it's wrong what should I do? I'm on a plane I can't complain I'm on a plane. My brother died every night it's safe to say call me off Love myself better than you know it's wrong what should I do? Look like she got my melody gown look how to put on the Z Love myself better for you no it's wrong what should I do? Do I'm on a plane I can't complain I'm on a plane. Somewhere I have heard this before. In a day dream my memory store. Else to found some new. Walk around the same. It's not time to make it unclear to run outlines don't make sense Love myself better than you and know it's wrong what should I do? One more special message to go and then I'm done and I can go home Love myself then I know you and know it's wrong on what should I do? I'm on a plane, I can't complain I'm on a plane I can't complain I'm on a plane. After the show, I was in kind of a weird mood, so I asked him, what's up? He was like, I think it was bad. I think that the show was really bad. I don't think I was very good. And I said, I think that you're wrong. I think that it was stunning. And he said people weren't clapping very much. I think that they were really just so taken by what was going on and they were so taken by the performance that they weren't. They weren't going to clap like that. I also said, I think that people were sort of stunned kind of to be that close to the band, because in the general venues, people weren't able to be that close to the band, and it was such an intimate setting. 442 00:43:15.030 --> 00:43:18.150 Still not sure how I feel about the. The sweet situation. 443 00:43:18.710 --> 00:43:24.870 It's been A disaster today because we didn't have the right things. So we didn't have. 444 00:43:24.870 --> 00:43:28.110 We had. So we had bongo sweets from last time. 445 00:43:28.110 --> 00:43:28.870 You ate all those. 446 00:43:29.750 --> 00:43:30.870 Cuz I was here earlier. 447 00:43:31.190 --> 00:43:38.270 So he came in early and ate all the bongo sweets. That's totally not in the, in the spirit of things. 448 00:43:38.270 --> 00:43:47.850 That's not. But there weren't. No, there weren't any bongo Cokes. I, Bongo coats. I don't know. I don't think we actually had any. I don't think, I think we had them last time. I think we had the bongo Cokes last time. 449 00:43:47.850 --> 00:43:48.290 Did we? 450 00:43:48.290 --> 00:43:51.850 Yeah. And then. But we left the bongos because you bought two extra sweets. 451 00:43:51.850 --> 00:43:52.170 Yeah. 452 00:43:52.170 --> 00:43:56.530 And I think you thought about taking them with you but then in the end you went, no, no, I'm going to leave them here as bongo sweets. 453 00:43:59.650 --> 00:44:02.650 You did. What did you do? You said, I've had an accident with the fruit pastels. 454 00:44:02.650 --> 00:44:03.450 No, Skittles. 455 00:44:03.450 --> 00:44:05.890 Skittles. I've had an accident with the skittles. You said. 456 00:44:08.130 --> 00:44:16.430 So. Yeah. The bongo sweets happened and then I messaged you to say there aren't any bongo Cokes. So can you, can you get some on the way? And then like you couldn't get any from the shop. 457 00:44:16.750 --> 00:44:18.750 So that where we go. We've talked about this before. 458 00:44:18.830 --> 00:44:19.470 Yeah. Yeah. 459 00:44:19.470 --> 00:44:22.270 So we go, we go to the garage over the other side of the road. 460 00:44:22.270 --> 00:44:22.710 Yeah. 461 00:44:22.710 --> 00:44:29.830 And I, I, I, I, I sort of, I'm in my car with the engine and I, So in I go and I feel like I'm, you know, all good. 462 00:44:29.830 --> 00:44:30.150 Yeah. 463 00:44:30.150 --> 00:44:31.150 And I can't get in. 464 00:44:31.230 --> 00:44:31.630 Yeah. 465 00:44:31.630 --> 00:44:33.590 And the reason I can't. It's all coned off. 466 00:44:33.590 --> 00:44:36.390 Yeah. But they normally cone it off when they're having like a delivery. 467 00:44:36.390 --> 00:44:38.710 Yeah, yeah. When the delivery lorries there. 468 00:44:38.710 --> 00:44:39.150 Yeah. 469 00:44:39.150 --> 00:44:40.590 But there was no delivery lorry. 470 00:44:40.590 --> 00:44:40.870 No. 471 00:44:40.870 --> 00:44:43.230 Instead there is a car with its bonnet on top. 472 00:44:43.230 --> 00:44:43.630 Yeah. 473 00:44:43.630 --> 00:44:46.510 Smashed into the cash points. 474 00:44:46.510 --> 00:44:46.950 Yeah. 475 00:44:47.190 --> 00:44:53.070 And we're, we're hypothesizing that one of the local scrotes has tried to steal some ten pound notes. 476 00:44:53.070 --> 00:44:54.190 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 477 00:44:54.190 --> 00:44:55.590 I don't know, it's a Fiesta, I think. 478 00:44:55.590 --> 00:44:56.150 Yeah. 479 00:44:56.870 --> 00:44:58.950 That's not a great car to go and do that, is it? 480 00:44:59.270 --> 00:45:10.630 No, I've got a thing about notes. Right. Where the heads have got to be the right way around. So I, I wonder like, you know, if you steal money like that and you get from the cash point. 481 00:45:10.630 --> 00:45:10.870 Yeah. 482 00:45:10.870 --> 00:45:14.230 Do you think they have a moment where they've got to sit and then put Their heads the right way around in the car. 483 00:45:14.230 --> 00:45:15.170 And they get caugh. Caught. 484 00:45:15.170 --> 00:45:17.250 Yeah, they get caught because. Oh. Oh no. 485 00:45:17.250 --> 00:45:29.650 Oh damn it. We've been caught. But at least the heads are all the way around. They do. We. I volunteer at the Parkrun and they have to put the tokens to see when you do the park, when you get given a token. 486 00:45:29.650 --> 00:45:30.130 Yeah. 487 00:45:30.290 --> 00:45:39.370 And then. And then you give that token to the scanners and it kind of shows where you are. There's this whole like convoluted process. But at the end the tokens have to go back on the ring. 488 00:45:39.370 --> 00:45:39.810 Yeah. 489 00:45:39.810 --> 00:45:50.190 And honestly it's very. You need. You need that. There's a special sort of person that just token sorting at the end which organizes them all into piles. Beautifully organized. And so there's hundreds of them. 490 00:45:50.190 --> 00:45:50.550 Yeah. 491 00:45:50.550 --> 00:45:56.870 Little dog tags and tiny little things and they all stick together in the. In. In the. When they're wet and stuff. So. Yeah, I don't know. 492 00:45:56.870 --> 00:45:57.310 I'm. 493 00:45:57.390 --> 00:45:58.670 I'm down for that definitely. 494 00:45:58.670 --> 00:45:59.390 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 495 00:45:59.390 --> 00:46:03.710 And I think. I think my eldest is a little bit like that too because he. I asked him to alphabetize. 496 00:46:03.710 --> 00:46:04.190 Yes. 497 00:46:04.270 --> 00:46:05.070 My vinyl. 498 00:46:05.390 --> 00:46:07.430 It's a good feeling that is when you get that. Right. 499 00:46:07.430 --> 00:46:10.830 He liked that. But he got really upset about certain things. 500 00:46:11.070 --> 00:46:11.470 Right. 501 00:46:11.550 --> 00:46:16.000 So I have a couple. I've got a. I've got a lovely Goo Goo Goo Dolls box set. 502 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:16.360 Yeah. 503 00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:18.280 First five albums. 504 00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:18.720 Yeah. 505 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:23.760 And I told him to arrange them by chronological order. 506 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:24.280 Not of best. 507 00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:28.320 No. But the thing. But I like it done by the album. So the album name. 508 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:32.080 Oh, I see. So alphabetical. Right. See I wouldn't. I'd do. I'd do chronological. 509 00:46:32.160 --> 00:46:33.040 Didn't like that. 510 00:46:33.120 --> 00:46:33.520 No. 511 00:46:33.680 --> 00:46:36.680 Because obviously the box sets have got multiple albums in. 512 00:46:36.680 --> 00:46:37.120 Yeah. 513 00:46:37.120 --> 00:46:44.710 So he didn't like that. And then there was others that he didn't like as well. So when you've got the. 514 00:46:44.870 --> 00:46:45.350 Yeah. 515 00:46:45.430 --> 00:46:47.230 And he's like. What do you do with that? 516 00:46:47.230 --> 00:46:47.550 Yeah. 517 00:46:47.550 --> 00:46:48.390 Like the Almighty. 518 00:46:48.390 --> 00:46:50.350 Yeah, yeah. It's got to be A. 519 00:46:50.350 --> 00:46:57.870 And so he got. He got a little bit. He didn't. Yeah, he didn't like that. He loves. He volunteers here at the library and he likes organizing the books. 520 00:46:57.870 --> 00:46:58.870 He does really well actually. 521 00:46:58.870 --> 00:47:12.360 He loves it. He just loves. Or good loves. He won't do it in his own room. His room looks like, like it's how I imagine. Like a bed sit would look. Yeah, yeah. But he loves organizing other people's things. 522 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:13.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 523 00:47:13.160 --> 00:47:13.800 Which is nice. 524 00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:14.680 It's lovely, isn't it? 525 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:18.200 Yeah, it's lovely. It's. It Is. And I can find records. 526 00:47:18.200 --> 00:47:18.680 Yeah. 527 00:47:19.080 --> 00:47:27.800 Which is a bit sad, actually. You know that one of the beauties of physical media, I think, is I'll think, oh, I want to listen to Ride the Lightning today. 528 00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:28.320 Yeah. 529 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:33.600 I start firking around where I think, ride the Lightning and I'll find something else. 530 00:47:33.600 --> 00:47:33.960 Yeah. 531 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:35.640 Like the Cult. 532 00:47:35.720 --> 00:47:36.040 Yeah. 533 00:47:36.040 --> 00:47:37.340 And I go, I'll listen that instead, then. 534 00:47:37.340 --> 00:47:37.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 535 00:47:37.900 --> 00:47:38.660 And I like that. 536 00:47:38.660 --> 00:47:39.100 Yeah. 537 00:47:39.100 --> 00:47:43.460 But I, I, I listen to the Call the Love. Really like that. We need to do that. 538 00:47:43.620 --> 00:47:44.060 Yeah. 539 00:47:44.060 --> 00:47:49.060 There's loads. There's so many really good albums. Do you other. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go on a rabbit hole. Can I go down a rabbit hole? 540 00:47:49.060 --> 00:47:49.620 Of course you can. 541 00:47:51.620 --> 00:47:54.700 You know one of my favorite bands, Little Angels. Yes, love Little Angels. 542 00:47:54.700 --> 00:47:55.020 Yeah. 543 00:47:55.020 --> 00:47:55.300 With. 544 00:47:55.300 --> 00:47:57.940 I love. There's a pa. A new page on the website that you've done. 545 00:47:57.940 --> 00:48:05.100 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So POLICE CAR SIREN Is that police car or an ambulance, do you think? 546 00:48:05.100 --> 00:48:07.460 I don't know. Police car. I'm going to say, please. 547 00:48:07.460 --> 00:48:27.020 Car, blue lights. Not coming in here. That's good. So Little Angels back together. Yeah, they said they were not going to get back together. Yeah, they recorded some of my favorite albums. They did. Oh, they did Young Gods, which I think is one of the best, like, British hard rock albums. 548 00:48:27.020 --> 00:48:27.300 Yeah. 549 00:48:27.300 --> 00:48:42.210 Like, ever been made. Then they did Jam and. Oh, good. Just brilliant. Brilliant band. Crushed, I would say, by the record industry. Yeah. They were one like them and Thunder and bunch of others. Just didn't break America. 550 00:48:42.210 --> 00:48:42.490 No. 551 00:48:42.490 --> 00:49:13.560 You know what I mean? They just didn't get the push. Kind of just, Just like, didn't quite make it in the US and they were being pushed to do that and then I think just, just kind of fell apart. But they're all back together now and they're out and they're playing. They're at Rock City, they're doing a bunch of tours. If you like Little Angels, which you should there, and you're in the uk, you can go and see see them, which is great. And I just hope they do some new material because they've got. They're just cool. They're just such a cool bunch. Like. Like Toby's done production and he's done Wayward Sons and done a bunch of other things, which makes him like. I think he's just epic. 552 00:49:13.560 --> 00:49:14.040 Yeah. 553 00:49:15.560 --> 00:49:18.400 But the rest of the band have all done, like, really cool things. 554 00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:18.840 Yeah. 555 00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:28.240 Like working in university as a music professor and helping kids and stuff. And they're just such a lovely bunch. I'm very excited about that. 556 00:49:28.240 --> 00:49:29.010 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 557 00:49:29.250 --> 00:49:30.010 Very excited. 558 00:49:30.010 --> 00:49:30.450 Yeah. 559 00:49:31.250 --> 00:49:34.130 So there you go. That's what. That's my rabbit hole. 560 00:49:34.610 --> 00:49:37.730 We should do facts. Oh, but shall we do. 561 00:49:37.730 --> 00:49:39.250 Yeah, I've got my tablet. 562 00:49:39.250 --> 00:49:43.250 Ah, here we go. Should we do. Because you wanted to talk about Courtney Love not being there. 563 00:49:43.330 --> 00:49:44.130 You've done that. 564 00:49:44.130 --> 00:49:45.010 Oh, have you done that? 565 00:49:45.010 --> 00:49:45.770 No. You've just done it. 566 00:49:45.770 --> 00:49:47.610 Oh, I've just done it. Courtney Love wasn't there. 567 00:49:47.610 --> 00:49:56.850 Yeah. Courtney Love. So I didn't know this, but. So Courtney Love and their daughter. Right. So. So. So they had a proper family at this point. 568 00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:57.240 Point. 569 00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:13.560 And they weren't there. And I. I never knew. And I look to try and find why there'd be lots of people saying that it was because he was really nervous that it was going to be a disaster and he couldn't cope with her being there if it had all, like, crashed and burned. 570 00:50:13.560 --> 00:50:14.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 571 00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:15.880 Which is. 572 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:16.840 Yeah. 573 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:18.440 Considering how it turned out. 574 00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:18.720 Yeah. 575 00:50:18.720 --> 00:50:19.400 It's a bizarre. 576 00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:20.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 577 00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:33.790 Thing to think, I think. But it tells you where his psyche. Well, it tells you kind of where he. Yeah, I guess what the place he was in, you know, just this. It was just not a happy. Good. 578 00:50:33.870 --> 00:50:36.350 No, no, it wasn't. Well, no, no. 579 00:50:36.830 --> 00:50:38.230 We can do facts. Should we do some facts? 580 00:50:38.230 --> 00:50:39.470 Let's do some facts. 581 00:50:39.470 --> 00:50:45.270 I mean, it's quite a long blog, so I might get a bit. A bit lost, but let's see how we get on recorded. 582 00:50:45.270 --> 00:50:48.830 Should we talk about the blogs as we do their blog? Blog. Blog is Riffology. Co. 583 00:50:48.830 --> 00:50:49.310 It is, yes. 584 00:50:49.310 --> 00:50:53.750 It's having like thousands and thousands of thousands of people explore it every month, which is amazing. 585 00:50:53.830 --> 00:50:56.430 People a day. Not that many. 586 00:50:56.430 --> 00:50:59.150 And there's loads of people listen to the podcast as well. That's very nice. 587 00:50:59.150 --> 00:51:03.270 It is, yeah. It's. Yeah. We talked about this before, didn't we? It's bonkers that people like you. 588 00:51:03.350 --> 00:51:03.790 Yeah. 589 00:51:03.790 --> 00:51:05.630 Spending your time with us. And we really like it. 590 00:51:05.630 --> 00:51:06.390 Yeah. Thank you. 591 00:51:06.390 --> 00:51:09.790 We should write in and tell us that you do. You talk to us. Yeah, Lindsay does. 592 00:51:09.790 --> 00:51:10.950 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 593 00:51:10.950 --> 00:51:16.230 Lindsay always tells us nice things. Which is good. Which is. Which is good, isn't it? 594 00:51:16.230 --> 00:51:16.550 Yeah. 595 00:51:16.710 --> 00:51:20.110 She did a bingo card for us once. We used to say we were ill all the time. 596 00:51:20.110 --> 00:51:21.060 Ill. Cup of tea. 597 00:51:22.730 --> 00:51:23.450 It's too late. 598 00:51:23.530 --> 00:51:24.010 Yeah. 599 00:51:24.010 --> 00:51:26.570 It's too early. Yeah. It's five past nine. 600 00:51:27.050 --> 00:51:30.410 I tell you what, we do well, because normally we're like. We're midnight. 601 00:51:31.210 --> 00:51:59.760 Midnight by now. I. I don't stay up after 9 o', clock, so my eyes are rolling and I'M struggling a little bit and you have to finish it all off. So. Recorded 18-11-1993. This would be the last studio recording that Kurt would ever do. It was recorded in Sony Music Studios in Helskich. It was released almost a year later. First November 94. The label was DGC Records. Produced by Scott Litt. 602 00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:00.120 Yeah. 603 00:52:00.120 --> 00:52:02.520 Now we'll come back to Scott Litt. But he did tons. Of course. 604 00:52:02.520 --> 00:52:04.880 We're gonna maybe choose a Scotland record next, aren't we? 605 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:10.760 I think we should do one of the REM records because he's dead cool. And I like. I like Scotland and I like rm. 606 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:11.080 Yeah. 607 00:52:11.080 --> 00:52:11.640 So I think we should. 608 00:52:11.640 --> 00:52:13.760 And we've not covered anything like that. 609 00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:20.820 No, I think we should do. That would be quite cool. Um, director was Beth McCarthy Miller. I think they probably aged her significantly. 610 00:52:20.820 --> 00:52:21.620 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 611 00:52:21.780 --> 00:52:41.580 As they did that had songs cut. So the original release was 53 minutes. It didn't have something in the way. And the other one. Oh, my brain's just gone. And it's not in my list. There were two tracks that were cut and they were put back in again from this. Yeah. 612 00:52:41.580 --> 00:52:41.900 Right. 613 00:52:41.900 --> 00:52:43.700 So they had two. It was too long. 614 00:52:43.780 --> 00:52:44.260 Yeah. 615 00:52:44.340 --> 00:52:45.260 So they cut two. 616 00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:47.530 Oh, would it. Would it have been. Where did you sleep last night? Do you think? 617 00:52:47.680 --> 00:52:49.840 No, it was definitely something in the way. 618 00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:50.320 Yeah. 619 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:58.320 And another. Maybe it's in my facts. Later on I'll see. I'm scrolling down at the bottom of my table. It might be in the bottom, but definitely something in the way was cut. 620 00:52:58.480 --> 00:52:59.040 Yeah. 621 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:13.800 Which is a weird one to cut. I. Yeah, Yeah. I think. I don't know who made those decisions, but I think it's a weird one to cut. It was released on a CD initially at 53 minutes. And I think that's when they felt the 66 was too long. 622 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:14.160 Yeah. 623 00:53:14.160 --> 00:53:24.030 Trying to think why would 66 have been too long? Because that would have fitted on. Know. Oh, I think this is. This was in. Yeah. Maybe it was too long. 624 00:53:24.030 --> 00:53:24.350 Yeah. 625 00:53:24.350 --> 00:53:30.990 For the. For the. For the. For the formats. Anyway. It went back out with a longer one. Do you know when it was reissued on DVD? 626 00:53:31.070 --> 00:53:31.470 No. 627 00:53:31.470 --> 00:53:32.430 2007. 628 00:53:32.590 --> 00:53:32.950 Wow. 629 00:53:32.950 --> 00:53:43.550 It's quite a long time after. Yeah. Personnel involved Kurt Cobain, Dave Grohl. Dave Grohl paid. Played bass as well. 630 00:53:43.550 --> 00:53:44.430 Oh, I didn't know that. 631 00:53:44.510 --> 00:54:03.380 No. Normally Chris. Chris Novazilich, who still can't pronounce his name properly. And then Pat Smear, he would go on to do Fighters. And then Laurie Goldston. Not Goldstein, who. He gets the name wrong. And she played the cello. She played cello on 632 00:54:05.700 --> 00:54:07.540 something, in a way, yeah. 633 00:54:08.260 --> 00:54:22.760 Was she on anything else? But anyway, I think she. It's interesting. I think it adds a real dimension to it. The unexpected. Yeah, Dimension, which I think is quite cool. Like when Corn used bagpipes. 634 00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:23.160 Yeah. 635 00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:26.240 Maybe that's a really bad example, but in my mind that is. 636 00:54:26.240 --> 00:54:31.320 Yeah, but they're cool, aren't they? Like, sometimes bagpipes aren't very cool, but they. They somehow make it very cool. 637 00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:45.870 Corn make everything cool, don't they? Guest musicians. Kurt Kirkwood played on it. Chris Kirkwood played on it today. Meat Puppets. Yeah. Do you know where it debuted in the charts? 638 00:54:45.950 --> 00:54:46.630 No, I do. 639 00:54:46.630 --> 00:54:48.350 Number one everywhere. 640 00:54:48.350 --> 00:54:48.830 Yeah. 641 00:54:49.710 --> 00:55:07.330 Which I think is. Well, I guess it's. It was after Kurt had died, so there's been tons of stuff in the press and you'd have known this was. There was no more Nirvana. It's certified eight times platinum, which is just absolutely bonkers. Only one single. 642 00:55:08.040 --> 00:55:08.320 Yeah. 643 00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:21.640 About a girl, which is Bleach, isn't it? Yeah, Soft Bleach is the very, very first. It was broadcast on tv. So it was a lot like just back in the day for the. For the young kids. They're listening to us. MTV was actual tv. 644 00:55:22.040 --> 00:55:23.439 Like a music TV channel. 645 00:55:23.439 --> 00:55:29.640 Yeah. And. And so they. They literally. This would have been. Been broadcast like, you know, any other TV channel. 646 00:55:29.640 --> 00:55:31.160 Did you have sky when you were a kid? 647 00:55:31.160 --> 00:55:31.440 No. 648 00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:33.840 Really? No, I never had Sky. I never watched anything. 649 00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:39.650 No, but the school did. Right. I went to Ashby Grammar School down the road. And they had Borders. 650 00:55:39.650 --> 00:55:40.090 Yeah. 651 00:55:40.170 --> 00:55:42.930 Now the Borders had Sky in their common room. 652 00:55:42.930 --> 00:55:43.290 Right. 653 00:55:43.690 --> 00:55:47.170 So I used to go and watch. Because it was quiet in there. 654 00:55:47.170 --> 00:55:47.770 Yeah. Yeah. 655 00:55:47.770 --> 00:55:52.210 And so I used to go, no, I don't think we were supposed to, but I used to go and sit and do. I used to study in there. 656 00:55:52.210 --> 00:55:52.490 Yeah. 657 00:55:52.490 --> 00:55:54.650 Used to go and sit, put my feet up and have MTV on. 658 00:55:54.650 --> 00:55:55.130 Yeah. 659 00:55:56.010 --> 00:56:13.300 But I didn't, you know, none. We didn't have. We didn't have m. No. I think I'm scrolling down to my facts list at the bottom. The entire 14 song performance was filmed in a single take. Guess how many other bands did that with MTV Unplugged? 660 00:56:13.300 --> 00:56:13.940 Zero bands. 661 00:56:13.940 --> 00:56:44.830 Zero bands did that. Most of them stopped and started and hacked things around as they. As they went on. Kurt asked for the stage to be decorated like a funeral, which again, threw the producers a little bit, which is a bit bonkers. MTV producers again kept giving list after list of tracks that they wanted Nirvana to play and guests and Kurt just refused all of them. So it's either. It's either this or I'm not doing it. 662 00:56:44.830 --> 00:56:45.310 Yeah. 663 00:56:46.510 --> 00:56:50.190 The biggest hit they played based on single sales was Come as you are. 664 00:56:50.190 --> 00:56:50.550 Yeah. 665 00:56:50.550 --> 00:56:51.990 The rest were all kind of unknown. 666 00:56:51.990 --> 00:56:54.750 Or there were covers or covers. 667 00:56:54.750 --> 00:56:55.150 Yeah. 668 00:56:55.150 --> 00:56:59.780 Or like songs off, like, rarities or B sides or other albums or whatever, wasn't it? 669 00:57:00.250 --> 00:57:07.050 Yeah, absolutely. But considering. I think it's kind of what makes it special, though. 670 00:57:07.050 --> 00:57:07.370 Yeah. 671 00:57:07.370 --> 00:57:14.490 You know, because it could have been like. If you imagine if some dude in a suit had picked this, it would have just been the sing. Big singles off. 672 00:57:14.490 --> 00:57:15.050 Yeah. 673 00:57:15.130 --> 00:57:16.290 Enough. Never mind, wouldn't it? 674 00:57:16.290 --> 00:57:16.970 Yeah. Yeah. 675 00:57:18.170 --> 00:57:26.770 Dave Grohl struggled more than anyone else with the playing of it. Couldn't play quiet enough. And eventually they solved it by giving him some brushes. 676 00:57:26.770 --> 00:57:27.210 Yeah. 677 00:57:28.140 --> 00:57:45.300 Which. Yeah. He'd never, never used before. Kurt Cobain's guitar was amplified, so despite it being badged as Unplugged and all of the others being unplugged, Nirvana's was not. And it went through a Fender twin reverb and effects pedals as well. 678 00:57:45.300 --> 00:57:45.700 Yeah. 679 00:57:45.700 --> 00:57:47.900 And they built a fake box to 680 00:57:47.980 --> 00:57:48.940 make it look a monitor. 681 00:57:49.660 --> 00:58:05.830 We talked about this before, but Kurt was on a massive drug come down. Down the day before, and they. They felt that it just wasn't going to happen. The whole gig was going to. Going to fall through. The chair that Kurt sat on was some random office chair from the building. 682 00:58:05.990 --> 00:58:06.470 Yeah. 683 00:58:07.510 --> 00:58:25.110 Because he didn't like the stool that this meticulously chosen stool that MTV had given him. It's like everything they tried to do, he didn't like, which I think is excellent. Chris played the accordion on Jesus, Jesus doesn't want me for a Sunbeam, which was the first instrument he ever learned. 684 00:58:25.270 --> 00:58:25.990 Right, right. 685 00:58:26.790 --> 00:58:36.590 And then in the rehearsals, there was a accordion lying around in the studio, Right? 686 00:58:36.590 --> 00:58:37.070 Yeah, yeah. 687 00:58:37.070 --> 00:58:40.830 Chris picked it up and just started mucking about and playing it, going, oh, I remember to play this. 688 00:58:40.830 --> 00:58:41.550 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 689 00:58:41.550 --> 00:58:56.890 And then Kurt was like, hang on. And then. And then wove it into the. The set, which I think is. And it does. It works really, really cool. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Kurt deliberately sang the Meat Puppets covers in uncomfortable keys. 690 00:58:56.890 --> 00:58:57.330 Yeah. 691 00:58:57.810 --> 00:59:34.680 So producer Coletti would go on record later saying that it was entirely intentional and it was talked about. And he chose to do it in difficult keys. He wanted the strain in his voice. He felt that it was going to do it. Where did you sleep last Night was supposed to be a B side for the Penny Royal T single, but neither were released after Kurt's death. And then famously, Kurt refused to perform the encore on the basis that he didn't feel like he couldn't. 692 00:59:34.680 --> 00:59:34.960 Top. 693 00:59:36.000 --> 01:00:29.840 Yeah. Where did you sleep last night? At the end of it, Kurt thought the performance was a disaster. So at the end of it, you can hear the audience kind of clap and stuff, but it's quite subdued and he, he felt that it was just an absolute disaster and that it had gone down really, really poorly and, and like kind of would never obviously go on to realize how well regarded it it was. Which is, which is bonkers. It was originally planned to be part of a double live album called Verse, Chorus, Verse. So they, yeah, they, they originally planned to do this, this, this double live album obviously after Kurt died that was no. And Grow. And they couldn't. 694 01:00:29.999 --> 01:00:30.400 No. 695 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:40.490 Go through with it. They just couldn't do it. So they just like, just. No, we're not, we're not doing it. But that was the original plan. This is the only album that Nirvana won a Grammy for. Yes. 696 01:00:40.560 --> 01:00:40.880 Yeah. 697 01:00:41.200 --> 01:02:33.050 Which is, I think, fascinating. We talked about the. The Martin D18 guitar sold in auction 2020 for $6 million was bought by the Road founder Peter Friedman, and it's been donated permanent, permanently to London's Royal College of Music. The green cardigan that Kurt wore in the session was sold for $334,000. The T shirt you talked about earlier that Kurt wore in the set, right wing T shirt, all female punk band from San Francisco. Like, very typical, you know, of what he would do. Yeah, like an almost unheard of band. Yeah. Oh yeah. Several songs rehearsed for the show didn't make the final set. So there was the COVID of the Velvet Underground, Here She Comes now, which the Meat Puppets guitar tech Troy Mice said was the best song that they did in, in, in the rehearsals, but it didn't make the cut. Caban introduced cellist Laurie Goldston by the wrong surname, so he called a Lori Goldstein. We talked about this, but Courtney Goldstein was. Sorry, Courtney Love was not in the audience. And then the 2007 DVD release includes five full band rehearsal tracks. So it's got Come as you Are, Polly Plateau, Penny Royalty and the man who Sold the World. So it kind of. You kind of get the, the rehearsals as well as the one that they, they came up with. And that's it for fact. I. I don't know. There is something about this album, I think. It's hard to quantify. It's hard to kind of say how good it is. You know what I mean? Like many albums I Kind of think, oh, how much do I like it? This one's. This one seems to transcend that a little bit. 698 01:02:33.050 --> 01:02:33.570 It's. 699 01:02:33.730 --> 01:02:47.870 It's this. It's as much of like a time capsule as it is a point in time, as is an insight into one man's soul. The point in time. The songs that were chosen were just exquisite. 700 01:02:47.870 --> 01:02:48.150 Just. 701 01:02:48.150 --> 01:03:10.430 I mean, just absolutely genius level. And then the production on top of it and all of the things and then. And then Kurt not being with us for very long afterwards, it kind of. It all just stacks on it, doesn't it? And it takes it into something that's. It's not just an album. This is. This is something. I don't know. It's like a point in time of a generation. 702 01:03:10.640 --> 01:03:10.960 Yeah. 703 01:03:12.240 --> 01:03:20.160 And it's. Yeah. I don't know. This is one that I think will be around and be in. In people's conscious for like, forever. 704 01:03:20.160 --> 01:03:20.520 Yeah. 705 01:03:20.520 --> 01:03:24.920 You know, I. I kind of get the feeling that this. This one is probably not one that's going to disappear. 706 01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:26.880 No. No, I think you're right. Yeah. 707 01:03:27.040 --> 01:03:30.240 So which RM album shall we do? 708 01:03:30.240 --> 01:03:31.680 I think we should listen to. 709 01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:32.360 Yeah. 710 01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:32.960 A song. 711 01:03:33.040 --> 01:03:33.480 Yeah. 712 01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:34.560 And then talk about that. 713 01:03:34.720 --> 01:03:37.960 All right. Yeah, let's do that then. That sounds like a plan. 714 01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:38.890 Y P word. 715 01:03:57.120 --> 01:08:31.970 My girl, my girl, don't lie to me Tell me where, when did you sleep last night? In the plants, in the plants where the sun don't ever shine I would shiver the whole night through, girl My girl, where will you go? I'm going wind where the cold wind blows in the pines, in the pines will the sun don't ever shine I would shiver the whole night through the husband was a hard working man Just about a mile from here his head was found in a tribute field on his body never was found My girl, my girl, don't lie that to me Tell me where did you sleep last night in the pines, down the PS where the sun don't ever shine I was shiver the whole night through Shiver. Sam. My girl, where will you go? I'm going where the cone wind blows in the pines, in the pines where the sun don't ever shine I will shiver the whole night through. My girl, don't lie to me Tell me where did you sleep last night down the PS down the clouds where the sun don't ever shine I was shiver not through My girl, my girl, where will you go? I'm going where the cold wind blows. That's. Sam, I think that, you know, had 716 01:08:31.970 --> 01:08:37.770 their career continued as nirvana for 10 more years. Or something. That moment might have got lost in 717 01:08:37.770 --> 01:08:41.050 a lot of other moments or just become lesser because I think they would 718 01:08:41.050 --> 01:08:46.490 have done consistently great things. But given, you know, just how short 719 01:08:46.490 --> 01:08:49.090 their time was, it's certainly a standout moment. 720 01:08:50.210 --> 01:08:59.490 Right then, R.E.M. it's either out of Time or Automatic for the People. Automatic for the People is my favorite favorite. Yeah, but out of Time's the biggest. 721 01:08:59.730 --> 01:09:05.890 Out of Time. Yeah, Time's the biggest. It's hard, isn't it? 722 01:09:06.130 --> 01:09:07.690 Monster's obviously a big one. 723 01:09:07.690 --> 01:09:49.390 I'm just looking at their list. So I'm looking. I've got my. I've got my. My MacBook, and I'm just looking at their list of records. So Automatic for the People was the one. You know, around this time, I was like. Me and my friend Russell, who was students and had like. Like 20p to rub together, would go into the local audio shop and pretend we wanted to audition. £10,000 worth of speakers and stuff. This was often taken. Yeah, Automatic was one that we would often take in. I think my favorite. Yeah. I don't know. It's really difficult. I think my favorite is probably Monster. 724 01:09:50.020 --> 01:09:50.340 Yeah. 725 01:09:50.660 --> 01:09:51.500 But then out of Time. 726 01:09:51.500 --> 01:09:52.700 That's got. What's the Frequency, Kenneth? 727 01:09:52.700 --> 01:10:01.900 On it, isn't it? Yeah, but then out of Time, Scott. Losing My Religion, Shiny Happy People. I think we should do out of Time. 728 01:10:01.900 --> 01:10:03.300 Yeah, I think it's a good idea. 729 01:10:03.540 --> 01:10:17.350 What's Automatic got on it? Automatic, Scott. Yeah. The sidewinder sleeps tonight and everybody hurts. And then. Yeah. Monster's got what? The frequency, Kenneth. And bang and blame and stuff on it. 730 01:10:17.350 --> 01:10:19.430 What a band. My. 731 01:10:19.910 --> 01:10:20.750 Really good, aren't they? 732 01:10:20.750 --> 01:10:21.310 What a band. 733 01:10:21.310 --> 01:10:21.990 They're good live. 734 01:10:22.150 --> 01:10:22.590 Yeah. 735 01:10:22.590 --> 01:10:31.270 I saw them at El Core. I saw them at Live 8 and they were dead. God. Yeah, they were just songs. 736 01:10:31.270 --> 01:10:32.950 Song after song after song. 737 01:10:32.950 --> 01:10:39.750 They were. They're a bit of a force of nature as well. They just kind of turn up and get it. Smash it out and then go. 738 01:10:39.830 --> 01:10:40.310 Yeah. 739 01:10:40.790 --> 01:11:02.490 And you're always kind of left a little bit like you. What just happened? What just happened? And they're. They're dead good. I think. Again, another band that can tell stories. They can kind of build us. They can build, like a universe or a space or a story in a few minutes in a song. And I think that's really cool. I was like, the production at R.E.M. 740 01:11:02.810 --> 01:11:03.930 yeah, I think they. 741 01:11:03.930 --> 01:11:12.330 They. Yeah, they. They. Their albums kind of sat there. They sound good everywhere. 742 01:11:12.330 --> 01:11:12.610 Yeah. 743 01:11:12.610 --> 01:11:19.590 You know what I mean? You can listen to it on, like, the Crapp. Remember those White earphones you used to get with a new phone. They sound fine on that. 744 01:11:19.590 --> 01:11:19.830 Yeah. 745 01:11:19.830 --> 01:11:21.670 And they sound great on a really expensive stereo. 746 01:11:21.670 --> 01:11:22.150 Yeah. 747 01:11:22.630 --> 01:11:29.510 Which I mean it sounds. You would imagine if you got something that sounded awesome on great speakers, it would sound good everywhere. 748 01:11:29.510 --> 01:11:31.270 But it doesn't always. No. 749 01:11:31.990 --> 01:11:33.270 Lots of dynamic range. 750 01:11:33.270 --> 01:11:33.710 Yeah. 751 01:11:33.710 --> 01:11:35.110 From rems. 752 01:11:35.110 --> 01:11:35.670 Yeah. 753 01:11:36.150 --> 01:11:40.470 Always managed to. To have that. Have that stuff in there. So. Yeah, let's do out of time. 754 01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:41.320 Okay, great. 755 01:11:41.320 --> 01:11:46.040 And then had. We got a plan. I. I can't remember if we've got a plan. 756 01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:47.800 There's a plan somewhere. 757 01:11:48.040 --> 01:11:50.320 You don't like the P word? No, I don't like the P word. 758 01:11:50.320 --> 01:11:56.280 But we've got like a clever software, haven't we, that will tell us what some good advice just whinges. 759 01:11:56.360 --> 01:11:58.240 It just kind of. It kind of goes. 760 01:11:58.240 --> 01:11:59.600 So please stop doing all the niche stuff. 761 01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:28.370 We dumped. We dumped all of our back catalog into the AIs and the chat GPTs and. And stuff. And it kind of goes. Your biggest. You know the ones that get like thousands of views, they're dead good and like they're back in blacks and you know, the Master of Puppets and the Dark side of the Moons and. But you seem to have this obsession with niche small British band. Just. Just get. Just do the big ones just go away. Just. I don't like. I don't want to hear your. 762 01:12:29.970 --> 01:12:33.970 We do what we want. We. We're not going to follow your rules. We can't even follow our own rules. So. 763 01:12:33.970 --> 01:12:38.990 Isn't that rubbish? Yeah. We told what to do. But I. Computer can get lost. That's what it can bloody do. 764 01:12:40.110 --> 01:12:46.710 But out of Time's a good shout. And then let's see what happens after that. I'd love to do Jimmy World. I've said that a couple of times. 765 01:12:46.710 --> 01:12:48.550 Jimmy World. I want to do Ugly Kid Joe. 766 01:12:48.550 --> 01:12:49.150 Yeah. Yeah. 767 01:12:49.150 --> 01:12:50.270 I think that's a banger. 768 01:12:50.270 --> 01:12:50.750 Yeah. 769 01:12:53.469 --> 01:12:55.950 Okay. I'll go in there. That's. That's like at least three or four weeks. 770 01:12:55.950 --> 01:12:56.830 Yeah. Yeah. 771 01:12:56.910 --> 01:12:57.990 It'll be spring then. 772 01:12:57.990 --> 01:12:58.910 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. 773 01:12:58.910 --> 01:13:02.110 I've noticed we're not. Didn't really heat. This is heating on. I think it is on. 774 01:13:02.110 --> 01:13:02.390 Yeah. 775 01:13:02.390 --> 01:13:08.040 Didn't really need the heating on today. No, it's like. At least it's like 12 degrees or something tonight outside. 776 01:13:08.360 --> 01:13:08.800 Yeah. 777 01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:09.720 Which is nice. Yeah. 778 01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:10.760 I can live without. Can't we? 779 01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:14.680 Not shaking. Right, well, thanks for listening. 780 01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:15.280 Thank you very much. 781 01:13:15.280 --> 01:13:16.200 If you've got this far. 782 01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:17.800 Congratulations. Very well. 783 01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:25.320 I feel you should get like a medal or something. And then if anyone Knows anyone around trees. Send us fruit pastels. 784 01:13:25.320 --> 01:13:27.120 Yeah, just. It's. That's it. It's all. 785 01:13:27.120 --> 01:13:31.360 If you work around trees. Yeah, somebody's got to just. Just feed it red, red and black. 786 01:13:31.360 --> 01:13:32.000 Flat. 787 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:32.480 That's that. 788 01:13:32.480 --> 01:13:42.260 You know that maybe there's. There's a color thing there, isn't there? Because red and black. Black through pastels and we have Coke Zero, which is also red and black, so. Oh, that's the thing there, isn't it? You see? 789 01:13:43.140 --> 01:13:47.780 Oh, I see what you're doing there. Yeah. Well, some people get, like. 790 01:13:48.660 --> 01:13:52.260 They get sponsors, don't they? You just want sweets. 791 01:13:52.900 --> 01:14:06.680 Well, you know, I. I really like Matt Armstrong. He lives just up the road, right? Yeah, Armstrong. And he's a. Is a famous. Yo, choba yo. He didn't do. Welcome back to the channel. 792 01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:07.440 Like, subscribe. 793 01:14:07.440 --> 01:14:41.660 He's waste from Leicester. So he says, Lester, Lester, Lester. It's got a flat, proper flat, like, like Midlands accent, which I love to see. It's wonderful. Anyway, I like him. He's dead. God. But he got sponsored by wife. Is it why food? I think it's wife food. He got sponsored by wife food because he was like always working on these cars and didn't have any time to eat. So he got sponsorship from my food to do it and I like that. Yeah, but that's like. He's a. He was a skateboarder and super fit. Yeah, it was all great. Obviously, you know, he's not going to get sponsored by fruit pastels. He's not going to like that. Where. 794 01:14:41.660 --> 01:14:43.180 Where do they live? Round trees. 795 01:14:43.180 --> 01:14:43.860 Fruit pastels. 796 01:14:43.860 --> 01:14:45.300 Yeah. Where do they. Where are they made? 797 01:14:45.460 --> 01:14:46.100 Don't know. 798 01:14:46.580 --> 01:14:48.340 It's around here. It's going. We'll just go around. 799 01:14:50.740 --> 01:14:54.060 Hey, can we have some fruit festivals? Yeah, we'll wear a T shirt. 800 01:14:54.060 --> 01:14:55.100 One pack a week. Week. 801 01:14:55.500 --> 01:14:55.980 I know. 802 01:14:55.980 --> 01:14:56.940 How greedy are we? 803 01:14:57.260 --> 01:15:10.380 Godlusters. Like, if they. I mean, you know what they'll do? They would just like dish out a box of like 50 or whatever. Do you remember when Emma. Was it Emma that did those other donuts. No, not the donuts. Jammy Dodger. 804 01:15:10.380 --> 01:15:12.860 Yeah. No, it was Jamie Dodgers, but because of the donut thing. 805 01:15:12.860 --> 01:15:24.990 Yeah, there's like, like 40 boxes of jammy Dodgers in the studio. Ate so many Jammy Dodges, I was gonna vomit. Jamie, just looking at the box, I was like, I just. I don't feel very well. That was good. 806 01:15:24.990 --> 01:15:26.190 That was good. That was. Yeah. 807 01:15:26.190 --> 01:15:28.710 So when. Ask her what she's going to send us next. 808 01:15:28.710 --> 01:15:30.550 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. 809 01:15:30.870 --> 01:15:42.150 Jammy Dodges. Anyway, that's good. Thanks for coming and we'll see you next time. Yeah, I was gonna talk about new music, but I think we can do 810 01:15:42.150 --> 01:15:43.590 a new music thing at some point, aren't we? 811 01:15:43.590 --> 01:15:54.250 Yeah, we've got. We've got like a collection of new artists that we think are cool for the last kind of. Of the release stuff in the last year or so, and so we think we're going to do something about that. 812 01:15:54.250 --> 01:15:54.690 Yeah. 813 01:15:54.690 --> 01:16:05.009 So if you like new music, that might be good. Well, it's not going to replace this. It's just. It'll just be like a random show that's special that you can ignore. If you don't like that kind of. Some people do, don't they? 814 01:16:05.009 --> 01:16:09.170 Yeah, they don't like new stuff. New music's rubbish. Yeah. 815 01:16:09.170 --> 01:16:11.450 Young blood can't even sing. Yeah, all that. 816 01:16:11.530 --> 01:16:12.010 Yeah. 817 01:16:12.890 --> 01:16:15.130 But I think there are. I think there's some. Yeah, yeah. 818 01:16:15.130 --> 01:16:16.810 Or we could put that zombie one on there. 819 01:16:16.810 --> 01:16:25.590 Check out, you know. You know, if you. Oh, God, yeah. Zombie. Yeah, that's good. If you listening and you want something new to listen to and you want recommendation, find Gunshine. 820 01:16:26.070 --> 01:16:26.950 The what, sorry? 821 01:16:26.950 --> 01:16:29.390 Gunshine. Gunshine Gun Shine. 822 01:16:29.390 --> 01:16:29.830 Yeah. 823 01:16:29.910 --> 01:16:46.710 Raucous rock and roll. Proper, you know, slightly out of tune. Interfering with your dog. Rock and roll. Yeah, yeah, that, you know, they're. Do you know what I mean? You wouldn't trust them. They're raucous lads, they are, but brilliant. Try that gunshine. 824 01:16:46.710 --> 01:16:47.190 There we go. 825 01:16:47.190 --> 01:16:49.790 And we'll do another show. We're going to do a show and we'll do some of that. Be great. 826 01:16:49.790 --> 01:16:51.790 Yeah, that's it, then. 827 01:16:51.790 --> 01:16:52.190 Sorry.